Very nice policeman today, VERY decent.

Very nice policeman today, VERY decent.

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Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
PH: gratuitously insulting people you don't know based on what they do for a living matters.
Please take my word for it that it's not gratuitous.

Also, presuming that alternative descriptions would be an insult is prejudging both parties.

Martin4x4

6,506 posts

132 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Quite a few years ago when working in Birmingham a female collegue of mine was being 'followed' one evening so speeded up to 'get away'. The response was 'blue lights', however the car was unmarked. She admitted being panicked and not beliving it was a real Police speed up more to get away. She was stopped at an island by several marked cars and it was confirmed to be a unmarked police car. After being interviewed in tears she was 'let off' and subsequently received a letter of apology from the chief constable.

CGJJ

857 posts

124 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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What i have learned from this thread- The M40 is a bad place to make progress at the weekend.

Billyray911

1,072 posts

204 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Martin4x4 said:
Quite a few years ago when working in Birmingham a female collegue of mine was being 'followed' one evening so speeded up to 'get away'. The response was 'blue lights', however the car was unmarked. She admitted being panicked and not beliving it was a real Police speed up more to get away. She was stopped at an island by several marked cars and it was confirmed to be a unmarked police car. After being interviewed in tears she was 'let off' and subsequently received a letter of apology from the chief constable.
Just curious.Why would she receive a letter of apology from a CC for being a bell end?

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Bigends said:
..or didnt know how to process you for speeding. Not all advanced drivers will be 'traffic' trained
given basic traffic process is something that every probationer / student officer has get signed off on ...

i'm with breadvan that the story doesn;t quite ring true

why would a genuinely covert vehicle show out for speeding ( yes I know ACPO guidance now says covert vehicles should be fitted with warning devices )

as to why the officers didn;t make it clear they were Police officers again interesting - if they stopped you on a high speed road where was their hi vis - also high vis + warrant card may well fulfill the 'in uniform' requirement ...

Silver

4,372 posts

226 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Billyray911 said:
Just curious.Why would she receive a letter of apology from a CC for being a bell end?
Who was the bellend? The driver or the officer that thought it would be a good idea to follow a lone female while driving an unmarked car at night?

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Silver said:
Billyray911 said:
Just curious.Why would she receive a letter of apology from a CC for being a bell end?
Who was the bellend? The driver or the officer that thought it would be a good idea to follow a lone female while driving an unmarked car at night?
Exactly - should ahve got a marked car in to do the stop - they found enough when she 'made off'

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q587.htm

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Silver said:
Who was the bellend? The driver or the officer that thought it would be a good idea to follow a lone female while driving an unmarked car at night?
How confident are you that you could identify a "lone female" in the car in front, at night?
Secondly, how confident are you that you could say for certain that the car behind you was marked or unmarked, at night, with headlights in your rear view mirror?

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Silver said:
Who was the bellend? The driver or the officer that thought it would be a good idea to follow a lone female while driving an unmarked car at night?
How confident are you that you could identify a "lone female" in the car in front, at night?
Secondly, how confident are you that you could say for certain that the car behind you was marked or unmarked, at night, with headlights in your rear view mirror?
Dont know whats changed but we always got a marked car to do our stops.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Bigends said:
Dont know whats changed but we always got a marked car to do our stops.
I've made dozens of stops in a plain car. Traffic do it on an hourly basis

Elroy Blue

8,688 posts

192 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Bigends said:
Dont know whats changed but we always got a marked car to do our stops.
For someone who claims to have been in the job, you make some bizarre statements.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Elroy Blue said:
For someone who claims to have been in the job, you make some bizarre statements.
I was thinking exactly this tbh. Very strange attitude on a lot of issues for a bib.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Geekman said:
I had one until it expired last year, couldn't see any major implications to having one? Certainly not something I'd class as serious anyway.
That depends how much you like keeping your car, I suppose.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Hey, if you had my car, you wouldn't want to keep it.

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Elroy Blue said:
For someone who claims to have been in the job, you make some bizarre statements.
I was thinking exactly this tbh. Very strange attitude on a lot of issues for a bib.
41yrs this year boys and girls. Joined in Sept 1973 as a Cadet - then off to Eynsham same year as Derek Smith. Front line ( response, community team, football spotter, PSU etc) till 2005 then crime management since I retired.
Certainly back till 2005, I was on a street crime unit. Often out in plain cars. We'd always call a uniform car in to do the stop - just asking whether anythings changed since. In the last ten years since retirement my views on Policing HAVE changed - the same as policings changed - not necessarily for the better.



Edited by Bigends on Monday 25th August 20:33

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

179 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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The do exist I had this week an audi q7 baring down on me and so decided to get a move on. I had also been on a long overtake earlier and ended up going back to my side of the road just as a double white line system came into force.

Next thing I know the q7 is back up my chuff two plain clothed occupants its blue lights all over the front lit up. Got out was a very short muscular guy in jeans and t-shirt, slips on a police high viz with no collar numbers and has a moan about my 3 figure speed and my overtake slightly onto double white lines (I could of tucked in earlier but wasn't in conflict with anyone and didnt want to cut the front car up).

Any tells me about the fatals on the a303 and I am probably a decent bloke and its my one and only warning. Off he goes!

O*10 plate silver q7 with no tel-tale police markings at all no extra aerials nothing.

Elroy Blue

8,688 posts

192 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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I've been driving unmarked cars for twenty years. To suggest that I call a marked car to my location to make a stop suggests a complete lack of understanding about resources (not just now, but in previous years), distances and nature of the work.

I work on a motorway. Do you suggest I ask a marked car to travel 100+miles to make a stop for me. Travelling at 80mph, we might be at the south coast before they were able to get anywhere near.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
Hey, if you had my car, you wouldn't want to keep it.
If it's the one in your profile pic, I'll happily keep it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Alas, sold now! Much missed.

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Monday 25th August 2014
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Elroy Blue said:
I've been driving unmarked cars for twenty years. To suggest that I call a marked car to my location to make a stop suggests a complete lack of understanding about resources (not just now, but in previous years), distances and nature of the work.

I work on a motorway. Do you suggest I ask a marked car to travel 100+miles to make a stop for me. Travelling at 80mph, we might be at the south coast before they were able to get anywhere near.
Youve answered my query - if youre a county wide resource then clearly it wouldnt be practical to get a marked car to you. I worked locally - not on motorways - therefore we could always get a marked car out to us. I'm more than aware of current resourcing, pressures and workloads.