Speeding on M6 Toll - Need a Motoring Lawyer

Speeding on M6 Toll - Need a Motoring Lawyer

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LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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tenpenceshort said:
Elroy Blue said:
Not really. major difference between 85 and 95 is you might not get stopped at all when doing the former.
Stopped by whom? Granted this thread is about someone being pulled over, however in 35k-45k miles in the past year on the motorways, I could go weeks without seeing a marked or unmarked traffic car.

Fully take your point if you're in an area with active traffic patrols, though I'd hope to spot them before they spotted me.
I think he is an active patrol on the toll road.

tenpenceshort

32,880 posts

216 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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He'll never take me alive, coppah!

whyohwhy

280 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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tenpenceshort said:
Stopped by whom? Granted this thread is about someone being pulled over, however in 35k-45k miles in the past year on the motorways, I could go weeks without seeing a marked or unmarked traffic car.

Fully take your point if you're in an area with active traffic patrols, though I'd hope to spot them before they spotted me.
Granted you may not have seen them. But more to the point how often have you been going fast enough for them to take an interesting you?

Sheepshanks

32,533 posts

118 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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tenpenceshort said:
Stopped by whom? Granted this thread is about someone being pulled over, however in 35k-45k miles in the past year on the motorways, I could go weeks without seeing a marked or unmarked traffic car.
I do about the same and agree on marked cars, but I see a fair number of unmarked cars and presumably I miss some too.

The thing I'm seeing a lot at the moment is laser speed detection off bridges - I know it's been around for years (I got done in Cheshire on the A500 10yrs ago) but the M42, M40 and motorways in the South seem to often have vans or tripod mounted lasers positioned just around bends and out of your normal eye-line.

Considering they can speed-check you at 1000 metres by the time you see them it's probably too late - I'm very cautious now if I'm pressing-on and see brake lights for no obvious reason ahead.

Jon1967x

7,177 posts

123 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
tenpenceshort said:
Stopped by whom? Granted this thread is about someone being pulled over, however in 35k-45k miles in the past year on the motorways, I could go weeks without seeing a marked or unmarked traffic car.
I do about the same and agree on marked cars, but I see a fair number of unmarked cars and presumably I miss some too.

The thing I'm seeing a lot at the moment is laser speed detection off bridges - I know it's been around for years (I got done in Cheshire on the A500 10yrs ago) but the M42, M40 and motorways in the South seem to often have vans or tripod mounted lasers positioned just around bends and out of your normal eye-line.

Considering they can speed-check you at 1000 metres by the time you see them it's probably too late - I'm very cautious now if I'm pressing-on and see brake lights for no obvious reason ahead.
I think a lot of the bridge stuff is anpr catching insurance dodgers. I've no problem with that at all

Sheepshanks

32,533 posts

118 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Jon1967x said:
I think a lot of the bridge stuff is anpr catching insurance dodgers. I've no problem with that at all
That's rare - when they're doing that there's a bunch of chase cars and bikes further up the motorway. Seen it on the M6 Toll northbound once.

VonSenger

2,465 posts

188 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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My cousin was convicted for 125mph on the m6 toll last Tuesday. 6 points and £1200 fine. No lawyer, he just put his hands up, said he was a nob but needs his license for the commute. Very lucky.

Vipers

32,799 posts

227 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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VonSenger said:
My cousin was convicted for 125mph on the m6 toll last Tuesday. 6 points and £1200 fine. No lawyer, he just put his hands up, said he was a nob but needs his license for the commute. Very lucky.
Lucky him, but why do people chance it, I don't understand that.




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Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

260 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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I don't understand how a ban can be preferable to points. If I had a choice between a weeks ban or 11 points then unless I wasn't planning to do any driving at all in the next week I'd go for the points every time. What are the chances of getting more points in the next three years? Most of us have never had any.

Sheepshanks

32,533 posts

118 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Dr Jekyll said:
I don't understand how a ban can be preferable to points. If I had a choice between a weeks ban or 11 points then unless I wasn't planning to do any driving at all in the next week I'd go for the points every time. What are the chances of getting more points in the next three years? Most of us have never had any.
Driving for the next 3yrs would be scary enough if you got 6 points. Being on 11 doesn't bear thinking about.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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I was on 9 points for 6 months in my younger days and it was by far the least enjoyable driving period of my life. The 6 month totting up Sword if Damocles ban was nightmare. If I'd have been offered a shorter ban and a return to zero points, then I'd have taken them without a moments hesitation.

Captainawesome

1,817 posts

162 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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I was on 6 points, got caught over a 100 and am now on eleven. I would rather have taken aa short ban. Living in slow fear now.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

150 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
I'd be careful of that for insurance purposes - obviously different companies will vary, but some aren't bothered much about points whereas a short ban is a different matter altogether.
Speaking from experience, the one week ban added around £50 to my premium after ringing around a few companies.
Same as 3 points does in the grand scheme of things.

One week of taking the train, then back to driving with no points.
Which was lucky as aboutva year later I got a 3pt speed camera ticket on an A road.
Has I kept my licence and only had 6 points originally that would have put me on 9.

A short ban is better than points.




Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

195 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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VonSenger said:
My cousin was convicted for 125mph on the m6 toll last Tuesday. 6 points and £1200 fine. No lawyer, he just put his hands up, said he was a nob but needs his license for the commute. Very lucky.
Thats 4 x the fine Freddie got in his Bentley. Is the high fine meant to balance the absence of a ban?

Snowboy

8,028 posts

150 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Iirc fines are means tested based on salary/income.

I assume Freddy got a low fine due to a good lawyer and clever accountant.

I can understand why people wouldn't want a 6 month or year ban.
But if it's the choice between a few weeks ban or 6 points what would you prefer?

VonSenger

2,465 posts

188 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Mill Wheel said:
VonSenger said:
My cousin was convicted for 125mph on the m6 toll last Tuesday. 6 points and £1200 fine. No lawyer, he just put his hands up, said he was a nob but needs his license for the commute. Very lucky.
Thats 4 x the fine Freddie got in his Bentley. Is the high fine meant to balance the absence of a ban?
He's a high earner but even so that's a good result! Lucky boy.

JENKO

82 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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As I lost my license this week for a similar thing what i can tell you is that my Brief did say that Staffordshire is the worst county at the moment for handing out harsh sentences for motoring convictions, I know as I got the max for the 101mph which was 56 days off from driving, its actually not that bad and i am getting used to my chauffeur taking me everywhere i need to go, and now i can drink without having to even think about the implications of driving etc! quite relaxing!

Dammit

3,790 posts

207 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Well, I've learned from this thread that my assumption that 100+ was a 12 month ban is totally wrong.

Did it ever used to be, or have I made that up?

Vipers

32,799 posts

227 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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tenpenceshort said:
I could go weeks without seeing a marked or unmarked traffic car.
Are "Unmarked cars that easy to spot",


I only use motorways once a year, hence the questions, what make them so easy to spot?




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LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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They aren't easy but there are some tell tale signs. Very clean, low spec even on the outside but high performance in the engine dept. Look through the car and there's a bit of clutter around the rear view mirror. No stickers in the rear window. Just too clean. These all seem to set my spidey sense tingling which has worked well for 15 years now.