Portaloos put on our car park without permission!

Portaloos put on our car park without permission!

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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Bit of an odd one this!

The company I work for owns a small car park in a city centre which we purchased to give staff somewhere to park, we also have a few spare spaces which we rent out on a monthly/annual permit basis. So all spaces are used pretty much all of the time.

The car park is at the rear of a row of shops and other offices, and a couple of then have fire doors that exit to the car park.

One of the shop owners have been quite difficult over the last few years shall we say, by regularly parking in the car park all day, not in a space but just in the middle, and then using his fire door as his access to work because he doesn't see why he should have to pay for parking in the city like everyone else. We have taken him to court previously and some doddery old judge who has now retired told him off for the parking but then said he could still have vehicle access in and out of the car park if he needed to access the rear door of his property! So the problem of his all day free parking had just remained.

He has now allegedly decided to host a few evening social events in his premises and this morning several Portaloos have appeared in our car park taking up valuable space and looking unsightly.

This is causing havoc as the parking space is desperately needed, and while we can't access all the spaces, we are having to pay to park elsewhere which is obviously costing us time and money.

We rang the portaloo company and they won't tell us who hired them as it's 'confidential', and won't enter into any discussion about the fact they are on our land.

We tried to speak to the shop owner who allegedly hired them, but he won't speak to us and his shop staff know nothing apparently.

What can we legally do here to remove them? We need these things gone!


Edited by NinjaPower on Tuesday 2nd September 19:35

Davel

8,982 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Why not tell the Portaloo company that you are going to charge them X per day and with immediate effect?

XCP

16,909 posts

228 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Remove them. If someone has put them there without your permission.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Davel said:
Why not tell the Portaloo company that you are going to charge them X per day and with immediate effect?
Would this have any legal standing though?

XCP

16,909 posts

228 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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I would have thought you had a very good case against the portaloo company. I would give them one working day to remove the items, then if not done arrange removal and bill them. IANAL of course.

Gargamel

14,974 posts

261 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Wait till the owner goes in and then gaffer tape all round it and then push it over


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Gargamel said:
Wait till the owner goes in and then gaffer tape all round it and then push it over
As hilarious and satisfying as that would be, I really need to keep the moral (and legal) high ground here... smile

TurboHatchback

4,159 posts

153 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Surely you just move them? If someone left a Portaloo or anything else on my driveway I would just drag it out the way and leave it on public land somewhere.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Start of by parking a couple of cars right up to the doors, without touching them

With a bit of luck someone will go ballistic and bring it to a head.

Otherwise - lawyer up and write to the shop. They either have the right to use it or not.

Davel

8,982 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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NinjaPower said:
Would this have any legal standing though?
It might and, either way, the threat of it may make them consider removing them.

They are positioned on your land without permission.

I also like the idea of parking nose up to the doors....

otolith

56,036 posts

204 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Tell them that you don't care who hired them, either they move them or you will?

surveyor

17,811 posts

184 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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I think a fax to the Portaloo company informing that they are on private land, and that you are making plans to dispose of them within 24 hours, should they not be gone.

John145

2,447 posts

156 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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desolate said:
Start of by parking a couple of cars right up to the doors, without touching them

With a bit of luck someone will go ballistic and bring it to a turtle head.

Otherwise - lawyer up and write to the shop. They either have the right to use it or not.
EFA.

55palfers

5,906 posts

164 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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No one has suggested the Shop Owner and Portaloo company are taking the pi55 yet have they?

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Portaloo company is taking the piss.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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if they are just moved overnight the company will have nothing to go on

12lee

158 posts

165 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Although it would be satisfying to tip them over, without legal backup you may find you are just going through the motions.

Freakuk

3,143 posts

151 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Are they unlocked?

Dirty protest :-)

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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The shop owner has obviously just done it for sts and giggles.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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The plot thickens.

Spoken to portaloo company again and they are being hugely obstructive. They now say they have 'sold them' to someone and are only doing the emptying from now on.

The absolutely refuse to say who they sold them to or who the customer is.
We said we were going to remove them from our land and they still remained disinterested.
The shop owner is still being evasive.

So... We are in a quandary.

I'm reluctant to drag them out of the car park as I will then we will be responsible for blocking the public pavement or roadway to the rear of the car park.

If we pay to have them taken away then it's going to cost us.

Annoying.

Edited by NinjaPower on Tuesday 2nd September 19:37