Man being chased by police - should you help?
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An immediate relative of mines is a police officer in Scotland. He injured himself chasing after someone, and found himself in a desk based job as he could no longer really work on the streets. He was in that desk job for a couple of years.
Serious question here - what options are open to me as a civilian if I try and get involved in an arrest, suffer a similar injury, and can't go to work? Who pays my wages until I recover? What if we're talking a multi year layoff rather than month with a broken wrist?
Serious question here - what options are open to me as a civilian if I try and get involved in an arrest, suffer a similar injury, and can't go to work? Who pays my wages until I recover? What if we're talking a multi year layoff rather than month with a broken wrist?
StottyEvo said:
mark.c said:
23rdian said:
mark.c said:
Im my view this is a pathetic attitude, one that is all too common nowadays, typically I imagine that if you had been assaulted and left injured you would want every man and his dog to help out the Copper chasing down your assailant.
No, I'd want the police to do what they are paid to do.Also how do I know the copper I'm helping isn't a thug himself like the guy who attacked Ian Tomlinson for example?
Edited by 23rdian on Thursday 11th September 15:10
I feel your pain, the amount of times I've started to explain something that I thought was simple and obvious to someone on here, to then click "back" and think, this is not worth my time nor effort. I know what you mean, I've been doing that more and more of late, still, must fight the good fight, onwards and upwards, finish strong and all that good stuff! We will get through to 'em one day!Edited by mark.c on Friday 12th September 07:12
La Liga said:
f it were hands-on I'd be quite keen to help maximise the officer's chances of weapon retention by assisting. If the criminal were to get the weapon that would present a risk to me, even if I were not involved.
Point taken. Perhaps I should rethink my stance. Fortunately I have never been in the situation.La Liga said:
The American police tactics are stand-off and contain due to the threat levels and weapon retention issues, so I expect you're unlikely to ever encounter that scenario.
that might be the case in big city police depts , but in the sticks it's more like 'pew pew pew f
k yeah 'murica ! 'Eclassy said:
I am still not convinced by your arguments.
Should I help the bin man lift the bin into the dump truck because he has to lift hundreds of bins a day for not much pay?
Should I help a parking attendant identify cars which have overstayed their time so he can issue enough tickets to meet his quota which entitles him to a bonus that will top up his meagre pay?
If no, why should I help a policeman do his job?
Imagine if the person who recorded the killing of Ian Tomlinson decided to put his phone/camera down and instead help drag dangerous Ian away from the good PC Harwood..... The truth will never have been known.
I helped an old lady in Tescos the other who couldn't reach her porridge on the top shelf. Is this ok ?Should I help the bin man lift the bin into the dump truck because he has to lift hundreds of bins a day for not much pay?
Should I help a parking attendant identify cars which have overstayed their time so he can issue enough tickets to meet his quota which entitles him to a bonus that will top up his meagre pay?
If no, why should I help a policeman do his job?
Imagine if the person who recorded the killing of Ian Tomlinson decided to put his phone/camera down and instead help drag dangerous Ian away from the good PC Harwood..... The truth will never have been known.
Right. Now the true bit. Some years ago, early hours (1:00am) on the way home with wife and you daughter in car. Came across 6'6" drunk lout slapping g/f around in high st. Much bigger than me, so drove up on very wide pavement, and proceded to chase him with the car. He ran, collided with concrete bollard, the top of which was bks height. He was still rolling around in agony when the BIB arrived, who also nearly wet themselves laughing.
ks height. He was still rolling around in agony when the BIB arrived, who also nearly wet themselves laughing.robinessex said:
Breadvan72 said:
Greendubber said:
.... He was giving out ridiculous 'legal advice' and posting incorrect rubbish he dug up from Google ....
Hey! That's my job!Fartomatic5000 said:
I drove my car at a man being persued by police. The screech of tyres and sight of a car heading right for him startled him and broke his pace. I then followed him up the road (in the car) and pointed the on-foot officers down the alleyway he had taken.
Seriously, I wouldn't recommend doing that.Driving a car towards someone can be viewed by the police as attempted murder. Even when done in jest with a mate.
Breadvan72 said:
robinessex said:
Breadvan72 said:
Greendubber said:
.... He was giving out ridiculous 'legal advice' and posting incorrect rubbish he dug up from Google ....
Hey! That's my job!zarjaz1991 said:
Fartomatic5000 said:
I drove my car at a man being persued by police. The screech of tyres and sight of a car heading right for him startled him and broke his pace. I then followed him up the road (in the car) and pointed the on-foot officers down the alleyway he had taken.
Seriously, I wouldn't recommend doing that.Driving a car towards someone can be viewed by the police as attempted murder. Even when done in jest with a mate.
zarjaz1991 said:
Fartomatic5000 said:
I drove my car at a man being persued by police. The screech of tyres and sight of a car heading right for him startled him and broke his pace. I then followed him up the road (in the car) and pointed the on-foot officers down the alleyway he had taken.
Seriously, I wouldn't recommend doing that.Driving a car towards someone can be viewed by the police as attempted murder. Even when done in jest with a mate.
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