Man being chased by police - should you help?
Discussion
Greendubber said:
Mk3Spitfire said:
Nope, I think he just took a break for a day or two.
Everyone's entitled to a day off.Daily Mail website 15 April 2014 said:
Five-year hell of woman stalked by a neighbour who vandalised her house, car and street, targeted her parents, then stabbed her – and police failed to stop it
Daily Mail website 15 April 2014 said:
She reported him to police 125 times before he attacked her in a cemetery. Miss Pearson was only saved when a passing motorist intervened
from: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2605352/Fi...It seems Miss Pearson is helping police with their 'training'? Like what to do after they take a phone call.
The passer by that stopped her car and got out and pushed Helen Pearson's attacker off of her is called Sandra Robertson. Did Sandra Robertson help the police or did she do their job for them?
I'd revisited this thread to post a link to that young chap that helped two police officers in Brighton, but as you two were intent on digging yourselves into a hole I thought I'd be failing in my civic duty not to help you.
The link for video of Kiya Ingham helping two police officers in Brighton:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-292362...
Thinking about that attack on Helen Pearson after five years of hassle and contacting the police over 100 times, isn't that the same force that had an Email pasted somewhere in SP&L that included the job title 'Demand Reduction Officer'? I guess ignoring phone calls may be one way of reducing demand?
La Liga said:
ruff'n'smov said:
The next time a Rozzer helps me with my job....I'll help him with his.
Would you give a witness statement and attend court if you witnessed a crime, or is it just the brave stuff you'd not help with? La Liga said:
ruff'n'smov said:
The next time a Rozzer helps me with my job....I'll help him with his.
Would you give a witness statement and attend court if you witnessed a crime, or is it just the brave stuff you'd not help with? I was going home one Sunday night after a night out and the streets were empty.
Suddenly I heard screaming from a few girls and knew something sounded serious, so I went back to see what was going on.
I walked around the corner and two guys were fighting with two police officers and getting the better of them. The officers were backed into the wall rather than them trying to arrest the other two guys.
I felt I needed to offer help and dived in and took hold of the bigger guy and they got hold of the other.
The other police took a little while to arrive and arrested the two guys. The other police didn't seem that interested on the night, as if they didn't realise how serious the punch up actually was. Even though I was covered in blood down my back, although I didn't know it at the time either.
Days later I was called into the station to give a statement. I firstly parked in a police space outside the station and was confronted by an aggressive officer. They were suddenly nice after I said why I was there and given a parking bay inside.
Turns out the police officer had ended up with a broken nose in the fight.
The two guys were charged with various offences, including assault, and ended up pleading guilty in court. They were only given community service and small fines, which surprised me.
I was actually surprised that I didn't actually get any thanks in the circumstances. They were getting an absolute pasting and it would have been worse if I didn't get involved.
However if I did ever see someone getting beat up in the street again, I would step in and do my best to stop it.
I did end up meeting my girlfriend over the incident.
Suddenly I heard screaming from a few girls and knew something sounded serious, so I went back to see what was going on.
I walked around the corner and two guys were fighting with two police officers and getting the better of them. The officers were backed into the wall rather than them trying to arrest the other two guys.
I felt I needed to offer help and dived in and took hold of the bigger guy and they got hold of the other.
The other police took a little while to arrive and arrested the two guys. The other police didn't seem that interested on the night, as if they didn't realise how serious the punch up actually was. Even though I was covered in blood down my back, although I didn't know it at the time either.
Days later I was called into the station to give a statement. I firstly parked in a police space outside the station and was confronted by an aggressive officer. They were suddenly nice after I said why I was there and given a parking bay inside.
Turns out the police officer had ended up with a broken nose in the fight.
The two guys were charged with various offences, including assault, and ended up pleading guilty in court. They were only given community service and small fines, which surprised me.
I was actually surprised that I didn't actually get any thanks in the circumstances. They were getting an absolute pasting and it would have been worse if I didn't get involved.
However if I did ever see someone getting beat up in the street again, I would step in and do my best to stop it.
I did end up meeting my girlfriend over the incident.
Full marks for anyone wading in to help police.
On Friday I heard a story that would make me think twice.
Not helping the police but taking on a scrote.
A former workmate of mine saw someine tampering with a car and went across to challenge him. He was with his wife. The scrote turned nasty and gave this guy a pasting, all the time his wife trying to fight the guy off.
The attacker was never caught, my workmate was pretty badly hurt and needed hospital, his wife was hurt too. He got depression, there were rows, his marriage fell apart eventually.
This one incident had consequences bringing al sorts of crap to the surface. All because he did what he thought was the right thing and waded in.
ruff'n'smov said:
La Liga said:
ruff'n'smov said:
The next time a Rozzer helps me with my job....I'll help him with his.
Would you give a witness statement and attend court if you witnessed a crime, or is it just the brave stuff you'd not help with? My point was you said you wouldn't help the police unless they helped you with your job. I was asking if this view is consistent for non-confrontational things such as providing a witness statement, or whether you'd help with those things as you don't need to assume any risk to do some good.
Rovinghawk said:
I would say that the actions of some police have alienated many MoPs and reduced the chances of other police being helped.
It can be as simple as that.
You would say that.It can be as simple as that.
I would say that a few police have alienated even fewer mop's. I also think that some people have an irrational loathing of the police and authority, and this is more likely to have a wide scale impact than a correlation between unjustifiable, negative police experiences and subsequent attitudes.
Driver101 said:
I was going home one Sunday night after a night out and the streets were empty.
Suddenly I heard screaming from a few girls and knew something sounded serious, so I went back to see what was going on.
I walked around the corner and two guys were fighting with two police officers and getting the better of them. The officers were backed into the wall rather than them trying to arrest the other two guys.
I felt I needed to offer help and dived in and took hold of the bigger guy and they got hold of the other.
The other police took a little while to arrive and arrested the two guys. The other police didn't seem that interested on the night, as if they didn't realise how serious the punch up actually was. Even though I was covered in blood down my back, although I didn't know it at the time either.
Days later I was called into the station to give a statement. I firstly parked in a police space outside the station and was confronted by an aggressive officer. They were suddenly nice after I said why I was there and given a parking bay inside.
Turns out the police officer had ended up with a broken nose in the fight.
The two guys were charged with various offences, including assault, and ended up pleading guilty in court. They were only given community service and small fines, which surprised me.
I was actually surprised that I didn't actually get any thanks in the circumstances. They were getting an absolute pasting and it would have been worse if I didn't get involved.
However if I did ever see someone getting beat up in the street again, I would step in and do my best to stop it.
I did end up meeting my girlfriend over the incident.
You're very fortunate you weren't arrested for assault.Suddenly I heard screaming from a few girls and knew something sounded serious, so I went back to see what was going on.
I walked around the corner and two guys were fighting with two police officers and getting the better of them. The officers were backed into the wall rather than them trying to arrest the other two guys.
I felt I needed to offer help and dived in and took hold of the bigger guy and they got hold of the other.
The other police took a little while to arrive and arrested the two guys. The other police didn't seem that interested on the night, as if they didn't realise how serious the punch up actually was. Even though I was covered in blood down my back, although I didn't know it at the time either.
Days later I was called into the station to give a statement. I firstly parked in a police space outside the station and was confronted by an aggressive officer. They were suddenly nice after I said why I was there and given a parking bay inside.
Turns out the police officer had ended up with a broken nose in the fight.
The two guys were charged with various offences, including assault, and ended up pleading guilty in court. They were only given community service and small fines, which surprised me.
I was actually surprised that I didn't actually get any thanks in the circumstances. They were getting an absolute pasting and it would have been worse if I didn't get involved.
However if I did ever see someone getting beat up in the street again, I would step in and do my best to stop it.
I did end up meeting my girlfriend over the incident.
zarjaz1991 said:
You're very fortunate you weren't arrested for assault.
Why?I offered help and the officers said yes.
All I did was grab the guy off the officer and pull him down in a headlock.
It was forceful, but I was trying to stop a fight. I don't think it was unreasonable force in the slightest.
This is still ongoing. Police are just going to have that accept that a significant number of people dislike them for various reasons.
Parking wardens are disliked by motorists (I dont dislike them) but I am sure a parking warden would also tell you 'I dont know anyone who dislikes a parking warden'
Parking wardens are disliked by motorists (I dont dislike them) but I am sure a parking warden would also tell you 'I dont know anyone who dislikes a parking warden'
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