Pushed someone a few times - Assault?

Pushed someone a few times - Assault?

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lord trumpton

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7,372 posts

126 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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I parked on a particular part of waste land whilst I made a call.

It was in an Industrialised area. A high vis wearing guy tapped on my window and told me to move quite bluntly.

We exchanged a few pleasantries and he stormed off and thumped the rear door on my car and left a shallow dent.

I jumped out and and went after him saying that he should not have done that (you get the gist)

As he didn't turn around i grabbed his shoulder and span him around and pushed him with two hands. Fairly hard but not enough to make him stumble or lose balance. I basically gave him a mouthful (no threats issued though) and left.He shouted that I'm on CCTV and it was assault.

Having calmed down and realised what a complete dick I have been I'm worrying what can happen to me. I have no record and apart from a speeding ticket or two Ive never been in trouble.

sc0tt

18,036 posts

201 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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You are likely to be charged with rape and issued 6 points and a fine.

What colour was his hi-vis?

DIW35

4,145 posts

200 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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He is right in that what you did to him is classed as assault, but I doubt very much anything will come of it, as you could counter sue for the damage to your car.

JimmyConwayNW

3,062 posts

125 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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There's a thread in the lounge section about what's life really like in prison.

Can you add to it once you have been released?

Thanks.

lord trumpton

Original Poster:

7,372 posts

126 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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JimmyConwayNW said:
There's a thread in the lounge section about what's life really like in prison.

Can you add to it once you have been released?

Thanks.
Yeah, sure

JimmyConwayNW

3,062 posts

125 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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lord trumpton said:
Yeah, sure
Thanks mate. The foods not that bad.

Bigends

5,413 posts

128 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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If he reports it plod will record as common assault.

lord trumpton

Original Poster:

7,372 posts

126 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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So will I be arrested and have a criminal record?

Bigends

5,413 posts

128 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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lord trumpton said:
So will I be arrested and have a criminal record?
Wait an see if he reports it/ You can report the damage to your car if he does

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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DIW35 said:
He is right in that what you did to him is classed as assault, but I doubt very much anything will come of it, as you could counter sue for the damage to your car.
Completely inaccurate. The counter allegation won't make any difference should the guy wish to make a complaint.
Technically the offence you committed was battery. You could be arrested and cautioned for common assault/battery. You could be dealt with voluntarily and cautioned. If he wasn't happy with a caution, you could POTENTIALLY be charged. Unlikely though.
All depends on what he does about it. Is he likely to make a complaint?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Completely inaccurate. The counter allegation won't make any difference should the guy wish to make a complaint.
Technically the offence you committed was battery. You could be arrested and cautioned for common assault/battery. You could be dealt with voluntarily and cautioned. If he wasn't happy with a caution, you could POTENTIALLY be charged. Unlikely though.
All depends on what he does about it. Is he likely to make a complaint?
Presumably the OP could make a compliant to the Police about Mr HiViz causing criminal damage to his car (the shallow dent), albeit that won't make the complaint against the OP go away.

It might result in the CCTV footage suddenly being lost though...

Bigends

5,413 posts

128 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
DIW35 said:
He is right in that what you did to him is classed as assault, but I doubt very much anything will come of it, as you could counter sue for the damage to your car.
Completely inaccurate. The counter allegation won't make any difference should the guy wish to make a complaint.
Technically the offence you committed was battery. You could be arrested and cautioned for common assault/battery. You could be dealt with voluntarily and cautioned. If he wasn't happy with a caution, you could POTENTIALLY be charged. Unlikely though.
All depends on what he does about it. Is he likely to make a complaint?
If he does report it, the OP can make the counter allegation of damage - may not affect the outcome but then it may stop matey from taking things further if he knows he going to cop a caution as well potentially


Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Absolutely. Both are clear offences. The fact that the incident was captured on CCTV is the OP's best hope for hi viz not reporting it as he knows the damage will likely be covered too.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Bigends said:
If he does report it, the OP can make the counter allegation of damage - may not affect the outcome but then it may stop matey from taking things further if he knows he going to cop a caution as well potentially
Once it's been reported the police are duty bound to investigate it anyway.

daveinaravecave

1,144 posts

135 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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It sounds to me like he thought he was being smart by hitting your car, and then flapped it when you confronted him.

If you do hear anything, just deny it and it will go away.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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daveinaravecave said:
If you do hear anything, just deny it and it will go away.
Cracking advice considering it's allegedly caught on camera.

daveinaravecave

1,144 posts

135 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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It took a whole minute for a bite? laugh

Mr Hi-Vis is lucky the OP got out the car and didn't hit him with it. He could have then robbed the guy to compensate for the dent.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Bigends said:
If he does report it, the OP can make the counter allegation of damage - may not affect the outcome but then it may stop matey from taking things further if he knows he going to cop a caution as well potentially
Sounds like a way in for an officer to suggest both parties may wish to leave it to me! Although if that were the case, you'd be the chap pinging emails to the officer wanting to record it as a crime wink

OP, have a look at this see if anything you did fits: http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/self_defence/

t400ble

1,804 posts

121 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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People really worry about this stuff?

daveinaravecave

1,144 posts

135 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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t400ble said:
People really worry about this stuff?
Yes, and we have a serving police officer who seemingly would be happy to follow it up.