Paper Driving Licence
Discussion
I am (I think) still the proud possessor of a paper only driving licence.
I was putting a JPEG of it onto a new mobile device the other day and noticed that it says COUNTERPART LICENCE above were the endorsements would be. Is this normal, and should I have a photocard? I have been at my present address since the early 1980s and this paper licence has not been replaced since then.
I was putting a JPEG of it onto a new mobile device the other day and noticed that it says COUNTERPART LICENCE above were the endorsements would be. Is this normal, and should I have a photocard? I have been at my present address since the early 1980s and this paper licence has not been replaced since then.
You don't need a photocard and you are one of over nine million UK drivers with a paper licence. The paper licence would be valid until 2033 - by which time the EU requires every driver in a member state to have a photocard but it appears that you're 70 in 2031 - which is when your current licence expires.
OvalOwl said:
I am (I think) still the proud possessor of a paper only driving licence.
Yep, you are.OvalOwl said:
should I have a photocard?
Nope, that's the entirety.OvalOwl said:
I have been at my present address since the early 1980s and this paper licence has not been replaced since then.
So how come it gives 1991 as start date for categories...?Owl - are your details on the new (beta) system?
https://www.viewdrivingrecord.service.gov.uk/drivi...
https://www.viewdrivingrecord.service.gov.uk/drivi...
Looking a little closer I see that I passed my test in 1991. I've not looked at it in detail for ages and was worried that somebody would be expecting a photocard when seeing COUNTERPART...
The classes seem to be the same as here https://www.gov.uk/changes-to-the-driving-licence-...
What may be different is that my having passed my test in 1991 legacy entitlement means I can drive rigid goods vehicles up to 7.5 T, minibuses with more than 8 passenger seats up to 16 seats and to tow trailers with them up to a maximum train weight of 12 T.
When I got my licence age 70 seemed a long, long way off. Now it is just about visible on the distant horizon.
Yes. My details are on the Beta with a start date of 1 May 1997 on Your details, but the Vehicles you can drive tab gives the date I passed my test. Also my C1E is limited to 8250kg.
The classes seem to be the same as here https://www.gov.uk/changes-to-the-driving-licence-...
What may be different is that my having passed my test in 1991 legacy entitlement means I can drive rigid goods vehicles up to 7.5 T, minibuses with more than 8 passenger seats up to 16 seats and to tow trailers with them up to a maximum train weight of 12 T.
When I got my licence age 70 seemed a long, long way off. Now it is just about visible on the distant horizon.
Yes. My details are on the Beta with a start date of 1 May 1997 on Your details, but the Vehicles you can drive tab gives the date I passed my test. Also my C1E is limited to 8250kg.
Edited by OvalOwl on Monday 15th September 18:23
calibrax said:
The downside of not having a photo licence is that you will probably encounter difficulties if you want to rent a car, particularly if abroad.
No he won't, mine is 8 pieces taped together. Causes great amusement in the US but never had a problem hiring cars with it anywhere in Europe or the US & Libya.OvalOwl said:
Looking a little closer I see that I passed my test in 1991. I've not looked at it in detail for ages and was worried that somebody would be expecting a photocard when seeing COUNTERPART...
The classes seem to be the same as here https://www.gov.uk/changes-to-the-driving-licence-...
What may be different is that my having passed my test in 1991 legacy entitlement means I can drive rigid goods vehicles up to 7.5 T, minibuses with more than 8 passenger seats up to 16 seats and to tow trailers with them up to a maximum train weight of 12 T.
When I got my licence age 70 seemed a long, long way off. Now it is just about visible on the distant horizon.
Yes. My details are on the Beta with a start date of 1 May 1997 on Your details, but the Vehicles you can drive tab gives the date I passed my test. Also my C1E is limited to 8250kg.
Passed my test in'83, seems I can drive almost anything that isn't an HGV or PSV as long as it's not fore hire or reward. Be afraid The classes seem to be the same as here https://www.gov.uk/changes-to-the-driving-licence-...
What may be different is that my having passed my test in 1991 legacy entitlement means I can drive rigid goods vehicles up to 7.5 T, minibuses with more than 8 passenger seats up to 16 seats and to tow trailers with them up to a maximum train weight of 12 T.
When I got my licence age 70 seemed a long, long way off. Now it is just about visible on the distant horizon.
Yes. My details are on the Beta with a start date of 1 May 1997 on Your details, but the Vehicles you can drive tab gives the date I passed my test. Also my C1E is limited to 8250kg.
Edited by OvalOwl on Monday 15th September 18:23
tr7v8 said:
calibrax said:
The downside of not having a photo licence is that you will probably encounter difficulties if you want to rent a car, particularly if abroad.
No he won't, mine is 8 pieces taped together. Causes great amusement in the US but never had a problem hiring cars with it anywhere in Europe or the US & Libya.One of the problems with PH is that some people post absolute bullshyte with no evidence to back up their spurious claims
rs1952 said:
tr7v8 said:
calibrax said:
The downside of not having a photo licence is that you will probably encounter difficulties if you want to rent a car, particularly if abroad.
No he won't, mine is 8 pieces taped together. Causes great amusement in the US but never had a problem hiring cars with it anywhere in Europe or the US & Libya.One of the problems with PH is that some people post absolute bullshyte with no evidence to back up their spurious claims
It cost me about an hour of my time, I have a photocard licence, my wife doesn't, they were not happy at her being able to drive the car, and even did some sort of DVLA check.
Nigel Worc's said:
rs1952 said:
tr7v8 said:
calibrax said:
The downside of not having a photo licence is that you will probably encounter difficulties if you want to rent a car, particularly if abroad.
No he won't, mine is 8 pieces taped together. Causes great amusement in the US but never had a problem hiring cars with it anywhere in Europe or the US & Libya.One of the problems with PH is that some people post absolute bullshyte with no evidence to back up their spurious claims
It cost me about an hour of my time, I have a photocard licence, my wife doesn't, they were not happy at her being able to drive the car, and even did some sort of DVLA check.
rs1952 said:
Nigel Worc's said:
rs1952 said:
tr7v8 said:
calibrax said:
The downside of not having a photo licence is that you will probably encounter difficulties if you want to rent a car, particularly if abroad.
No he won't, mine is 8 pieces taped together. Causes great amusement in the US but never had a problem hiring cars with it anywhere in Europe or the US & Libya.One of the problems with PH is that some people post absolute bullshyte with no evidence to back up their spurious claims
It cost me about an hour of my time, I have a photocard licence, my wife doesn't, they were not happy at her being able to drive the car, and even did some sort of DVLA check.
scorcher said:
rs1952 said:
Nigel Worc's said:
rs1952 said:
tr7v8 said:
calibrax said:
The downside of not having a photo licence is that you will probably encounter difficulties if you want to rent a car, particularly if abroad.
No he won't, mine is 8 pieces taped together. Causes great amusement in the US but never had a problem hiring cars with it anywhere in Europe or the US & Libya.One of the problems with PH is that some people post absolute bullshyte with no evidence to back up their spurious claims
It cost me about an hour of my time, I have a photocard licence, my wife doesn't, they were not happy at her being able to drive the car, and even did some sort of DVLA check.
)On the odd occasions I hire a van locally, however, my paper licence has never caused a problem,
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