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9mm

3,128 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Devil2575 said:
supermono said:
If you know where the horrible vermin are living you should throw their turds over there together with those from your dog.
Based on some of your posts I regard you as vermin. Does that make it ok for me to throw dog turds into your garden?

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WRT the OP, I have a cat and I also have had the same problem as you with other peoples cats using my garden as a toilet. Just encourage your dog to chase them.
A dog is the answer. Only a suicidal cat will keep returning, but not for long.

9mm

3,128 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Devil2575 said:
9mm said:
The perfect pet for irresponsible, selfish owners.
What a stupid comment, but then that's not really out of charachter for you is it...biggrin
I'll let the myriad threads on the subject illustrate cat owners' selfishness and irresponsibility.

I'll also leave the insults to the stupid people as I can't really compete at that level.


danzltiu

585 posts

202 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Cant believe someone suggested that cats are trespassing!!!!!!! No such thing cats are allowed by law to wander and would suggest anyone doing anything like trapping or worse could be in trouble either from the law or if it was me the owner. Man up get a bigger, faster dog! If you have a dog and the cats want to come into your garden then theres not much you can do about it.

danzltiu

585 posts

202 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Cant believe someone suggested that cats are trespassing!!!!!!! No such thing cats are allowed by law to wander and would suggest anyone doing anything like trapping or worse could be in trouble either from the law or if it was me the owner. Man up get a bigger, faster dog! If you have a dog and the cats want to come into your garden then theres not much you can do about it.

_dobbo_

14,378 posts

248 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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We had this problem in our old house for a long time - even with a dog chasing them away, there was still constantly poo in our plant pots. No, it wasn't a fox, as a fox could not get over a 7ft wall.

It culminated in a cat actually coming into the house (clearly it loved danger), getting caught by the dog after a chase into the garden, and quite badly injured costing the owners hundreds in vet bills... That was an awkward conversation but the cat never came back!

When we moved, none of the noghbours had cats, hooray. But now new neighbours have moved in, they have three cats, and guess what? Poop appears and cats spotted in the garden. I have no dog now but do have an 19 month old son who I'd rather wasn't playing with cat poo for obvious reasons.

I tried every sort of repellant I could but never had much luck, ho hum.

Negative Creep

24,980 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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9mm said:
I'll also leave the insults to the stupid people as I can't really compete at that level.
I think you'll find you're competing perfectly well without any outside assistance

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

135 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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danzltiu said:
Cant believe someone suggested that cats are trespassing!!!!!!! No such thing cats are allowed by law to wander and would suggest anyone doing anything like trapping or worse could be in trouble either from the law or if it was me the owner. Man up get a bigger, faster dog! If you have a dog and the cats want to come into your garden then theres not much you can do about it.
Not entirely true, they are allowed to roam only in the fact that there is no law against the safekeeping of the cat (unlike dogs and livestock). But you are indeed correct in the trespassing thing, so I am truly sorry for that bad insinuation.

However this could be interesting:

[quote]Theft Act 1968
Cats are regarded in law as the ‘property’ of their owner. The
theft of a cat is treated as an offence under the Act, in the
same way as theft of any other property is.
A cat that is lost or has strayed is generally regarded as the
property of the original owner. It is therefore necessary to
make all reasonable endeavours to locate the original owner
whenever possible.
So quite simply, humanly trap the cat and keep returning it to it's owner, even if it's 2am you're obliged to return the stray cat. evil

Don't forget I am a cat owner too, I'm just seeing it from the OP's perspective where they don't want cats in their garden, which is their right since it's their property.

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

135 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Well a quick text to my local cat rescue got me an answer that I think both pro and anti cat people will like. Apart from the fact she said trapping humanely was fine she suggested that one of these would be more neighbour friendly: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Contech-ScareCrow-Motion-A... If you're dog is anything like the spaniels I used to have the he'll love it too. Best of both worlds?

Hol

8,412 posts

200 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Stick a disabled only parking sign your back garden.

9MM will park his car there everytime and the cats wont have anywhere left to crap.

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FunkyNige

8,883 posts

275 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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TheAllSeeingPie said:
Well a quick text to my local cat rescue got me an answer that I think both pro and anti cat people will like. Apart from the fact she said trapping humanely was fine she suggested that one of these would be more neighbour friendly: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Contech-ScareCrow-Motion-A... If you're dog is anything like the spaniels I used to have the he'll love it too. Best of both worlds?
It's also fifty quid! I resented forking out for an ultrasonic scarer (after trying netting, lion poo, etc.) but it's stopped my garden stinking of cat poo (and accompanying divots in the lawn) so I guess it's the price you pay! Rose prunings with big thorns have kept them off my front flower bed where I can't use a scarer due to the kids running round on the road.
The annoying thing is I actually like cats, I had one in my garden a couple of weeks back just having a snooze by the fence and I was happy to leave it alone. Found out the next day it left a present of poo on its way out so the batteries were changed in the scarer!

IainT

10,040 posts

238 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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BOF said:
censored.
We lost one of our cats to anti-freeze poisoning, we'd had him for 7 years and he was a dearly cared for part of our household.. It was utterly horrific watching him suffer and die. If I'd suspected someone doing it deliberately I'd have almost certainly retaliated against that person violently.

Your suggestion labels you as an utter .

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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9mm said:
Devil2575 said:
9mm said:
The perfect pet for irresponsible, selfish owners.
What a stupid comment, but then that's not really out of charachter for you is it...biggrin
I'll let the myriad threads on the subject illustrate cat owners' selfishness and irresponsibility.

I'll also leave the insults to the stupid people as I can't really compete at that level.
The miriad of threads?

Do you think a few threads on a car related forum are proof of anything? Enough to stereotype everyone who owns a cat?
I'd suggest that threads on PH are more a relfection of the kind of people who post on PH rather than anything else.

WRT insults, you might want to consider whether or not your original comment could be viewed as an insult...

bracken78

983 posts

206 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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I hate cats. Not because they ‘trespass’ in my garden or possible use it as their own person toilet but because they come into my house. Had some windows open this weekend and then went out shutting them all and returning 5 hours later. A cat was in the conservatory (door shut) and had pissed everywhere. Cat pee stinks and this was not the first time either. I made sure the cat new it was not welcome and have not seen it since. Grumble grumble.

Negative Creep

24,980 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Devil2575 said:
9mm said:
Devil2575 said:
9mm said:
The perfect pet for irresponsible, selfish owners.
What a stupid comment, but then that's not really out of charachter for you is it...biggrin
I'll let the myriad threads on the subject illustrate cat owners' selfishness and irresponsibility.

I'll also leave the insults to the stupid people as I can't really compete at that level.
The miriad of threads?

Do you think a few threads on a car related forum are proof of anything? Enough to stereotype everyone who owns a cat?
I'd suggest that threads on PH are more a relfection of the kind of people who post on PH rather than anything else.

WRT insults, you might want to consider whether or not your original comment could be viewed as an insult...
His post has annoyed me to the extent that I need to add a bit of background:

I got my then 13 year old cat from a rescue home a few years ago. He's one of the sweetest, most affectionate animals you could ever wish to meet and instantly became an intrinsic part of the household. During the time I've had him he's spent about 6 hours outside, hacing little interest in being anywhere aside from my bed or lap and his trail of death and destruction amongst the local wildlife has amounted to one moth. He's also neutered, chipped, wears a collar and is fully up to date with all vaccinations.

So come on then 9mm, please explain how any of my actions have been selfish and irresponsible? I'm dying to hear it

Tunku

7,703 posts

228 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Is a cat trebuchet acceptable? Cats always land on their feet, so I'm told.

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Matt_N said:
Not in my garden they didn't.
Had a nasty problem a few years ago, one of those sonic deterrents sorted it in the end.
Please no, those things are horrible.

Why not just go to a gardening centre and by some cat repellent? Seems to work slightly better than lemons or cayenne pepper, perhaps just because it's more potent than fruit and more persistent than powder. Job jobbed.

Failing that, use your dog, no one has any right to complain so long as your dog stays in your garden, cats will soon learn to stay out.

herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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I don't know why people like cats but cats don't cause me any problems. I wonder if it's the style of garden that's the problem. My garden is a little wild with a mixture of planting and there is no way cat st would be evident to me. Just a suggestion.

pinchmeimdreamin

9,954 posts

218 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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scarble said:
Failing that, use your dog, no one has any right to complain so long as your dog stays in your garden, cats will soon learn to stay out.
Unless this fella lives next door smokin

Jonleeper

664 posts

229 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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scarble said:
Matt_N said:
Not in my garden they didn't.
Had a nasty problem a few years ago, one of those sonic deterrents sorted it in the end.
Please no, those things are horrible.

Why not just go to a gardening centre and by some cat repellent? Seems to work slightly better than lemons or cayenne pepper, perhaps just because it's more potent than fruit and more persistent than powder. Job jobbed.

Failing that, use your dog, no one has any right to complain so long as your dog stays in your garden, cats will soon learn to stay out.
The trouble is that there are some cat owners who don't believe that. They believe that your dog chasing their cat in your back garden is an offence and will react accordingly. Try explaining to the local RSPCA inspector that I will not be preventing my dog from roaming free in my enclosed garden just because one of my neighbours cats seems to think he owns it and they don't like the fact that she got very close to catching it last time. I got a warning and told that the inspector would be back round to check I wasn't allowing my dog to harass cats even in my own backgarden otherwise they would be prosecuting me!

blueg33

35,901 posts

224 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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I dont get this lion poo business as a deterrent, it defies logic

problem - I have some small poos from a 5kg cat in my garden
solution - I will fill my garden with huge poos from a 90kg cat