PCC Shaun Wright resigns
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It seems he`s claiming his resignation is for the good of the victims.
"This is detracting from the important issue, which should be everybody's focus – the 1,400 victims outlined in the report"
so it`s still nothing to do with him being in any way to blame.
I think this just about sums him up:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narc...
"This is detracting from the important issue, which should be everybody's focus – the 1,400 victims outlined in the report"
so it`s still nothing to do with him being in any way to blame.
I think this just about sums him up:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narc...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshi...
Should anyone with any links to what's gone on in Rotherham be barred from standing for the role until the three 'lost' reports have been found?
Would that help lessons to be learnt?
Would that positively discriminate for new brooms and help cut out the dead wood?
Should anyone with any links to what's gone on in Rotherham be barred from standing for the role until the three 'lost' reports have been found?
Would that help lessons to be learnt?
Would that positively discriminate for new brooms and help cut out the dead wood?
Rovinghawk said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
As a general rule in life, I'd say that anyone who Keith Vaz finds to be a disgrace can't be all bad.
I used to think the same about Vaz, but over the last years or so he's gone up in my estimation, not suffering fools gladly.Edited by Rovinghawk on Tuesday 16th September 13:46
TwigtheWonderkid said:
What other direction could he go in? He can't go down!
That's a moot point given the activities the Great and the Good have been covering up in Rotherham and elsewhere.There's doing dodgy deals for mates and there's fiddling with kiddies. Not the same in my book of sins.
It could seem that line has been blurred and not just in South Yorkshire.
I think it could be in the public interest for Shaun Wright to spend some time behind bars. I don't think I'd have a problem with him sharing a cell with former Chief Constable Mereddyd Hughes.
Mereddyd Hughes has to be guilty for crimes against acting?
Edited by carinaman on Thursday 18th September 11:49
When I saw this:
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/matt-tapp/24/97b/502
I thought of the Gaunt Bros. and their little smear operation on MITCHELL.
So the police federation employ spin doctors the same as the police do.
Seems that PR guru involved in South Yorks. Police PR started off as a newspaper reporter. It is Flat Earth News by Nick Davies where former reporters and journalists manage or orchestrate brand management of the public sector. If the public sector is to be privatised they may as well start having their own slick marketing departments and operations now before they're in the private sector?
I wonder if Mr Tapp had any input into that performance Mereddyd Hughes put on for Keith Vaz?
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/matt-tapp/24/97b/502
I thought of the Gaunt Bros. and their little smear operation on MITCHELL.
So the police federation employ spin doctors the same as the police do.
Seems that PR guru involved in South Yorks. Police PR started off as a newspaper reporter. It is Flat Earth News by Nick Davies where former reporters and journalists manage or orchestrate brand management of the public sector. If the public sector is to be privatised they may as well start having their own slick marketing departments and operations now before they're in the private sector?
I wonder if Mr Tapp had any input into that performance Mereddyd Hughes put on for Keith Vaz?
Lower turn out than last time, about 15%, one ballot box in Doncaster had three votes in it said BBC Radio 4 WATO.
CORRECTION - turnout up to 14.53% up 0.8 on the 2012 poll.
ANOTHER CORRECTION - The BBC are saying turnout was down:
'The turnout was 14.88%, down from 14.93% in 2012.'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshi...
I'm feeling misled. Do I believe The Guardian, The BBC or neither?
CORRECTION - turnout up to 14.53% up 0.8 on the 2012 poll.
Edited by carinaman on Friday 31st October 19:48
ANOTHER CORRECTION - The BBC are saying turnout was down:
'The turnout was 14.88%, down from 14.93% in 2012.'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshi...
I'm feeling misled. Do I believe The Guardian, The BBC or neither?
Edited by carinaman on Saturday 1st November 08:10
Forces were forced to have professional PR teams.
When the police were obliged to give information unless there was some specific reason not to they followed the directions, with officers saying what they had seen and done. This was a gift to those whose role it was to spin the facts, such as journos on the media and those politically inspired. Had the internet and forums been around in those days, the naivity would have been exploited by posters with a mission.
Or, to put it another way, certain circumstances would have been highlighted whereas reasons, mitigation and such would have been ignored or distorted. No one who has read the various threads on here needs examples of this as they are all too familiar.
I was an 'out of hours' press liaison officer and I tried to be open and fair to those who phoned in as my lad was a journo and so I knew the problems.
We had a professional PR chap who was a source of good advice and could explain the systems. Excellent chap. He was, of course, what now would be called a spin doctor. A better description of his role would be to give information in a manner which those with a bigger interest in their own political or personal objectives rather than the truth could distort.
The fire service had stones thrown at them when they tried to extinguish a fire a small group of 10 years old kids had started in a local estate one evening. The reporter asked me: Is the riot a response to the heavy handed and insensitive way the way [the council estate] was policed?
That's why the police need PR people.
When the police were obliged to give information unless there was some specific reason not to they followed the directions, with officers saying what they had seen and done. This was a gift to those whose role it was to spin the facts, such as journos on the media and those politically inspired. Had the internet and forums been around in those days, the naivity would have been exploited by posters with a mission.
Or, to put it another way, certain circumstances would have been highlighted whereas reasons, mitigation and such would have been ignored or distorted. No one who has read the various threads on here needs examples of this as they are all too familiar.
I was an 'out of hours' press liaison officer and I tried to be open and fair to those who phoned in as my lad was a journo and so I knew the problems.
We had a professional PR chap who was a source of good advice and could explain the systems. Excellent chap. He was, of course, what now would be called a spin doctor. A better description of his role would be to give information in a manner which those with a bigger interest in their own political or personal objectives rather than the truth could distort.
The fire service had stones thrown at them when they tried to extinguish a fire a small group of 10 years old kids had started in a local estate one evening. The reporter asked me: Is the riot a response to the heavy handed and insensitive way the way [the council estate] was policed?
That's why the police need PR people.
That post and your 'The newspapers deliberately mislead you and me' thread, makes me think of the Baby P: The untold story documentary that ATG posted about in NP&E:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04n6sm0/baby...
The press seemed to have an agenda, as did the politicians, but the programme said the press didn't mention the 'We destroy the Ofsted data after three months'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04n6sm0/baby...
The press seemed to have an agenda, as did the politicians, but the programme said the press didn't mention the 'We destroy the Ofsted data after three months'.
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