Driving with no licence on a motorway

[liner33]

ziontrain said:

FWIW my granddad (86) learnt to drive with either the fire brigade or one of the forces, got his license approved during the previously mentioned concessions and has never passed a driving test. Sometimes you can tell

My grandad was the same he taught himself to drive a car when in the Army, then a truck , after demob he drove trucks and coaches/buses all of his working life and never had a lesson nor passed a test.

Even in the late 1980's the Army were still training drivers on trucks (HGV3) and awarding car licences upon passing the test.

There are still quite a few concessions given for service drivers

https://www.gov.uk/military-drivers

[mph1977]

Vipers said:

Vaud said:

alangla said:

Looking at the list of driving test centres, there's plenty of places you could do a driving test without seeing a roundabout or traffic lights, never mind a motorway. Personally I reckon there's a case for allowing provisional licence holders on motorways with an ADI, not totally sold on a non-ADI supervising driver though.

No motorways in Dorset for example.

Or the Shetlands, Highlands, Isle of Wight,

or post 74 Lincolnshire as the M180 /181 are in the 'North Lincs unitary district ofthe former Humberside ' ditto any little bit of M18

and the lincolnshire bits of the A1 isn;t any of the A1 M bits ...

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Vipers said:

Vaud said:

alangla said:

Looking at the list of driving test centres, there's plenty of places you could do a driving test without seeing a roundabout or traffic lights, never mind a motorway. Personally I reckon there's a case for allowing provisional licence holders on motorways with an ADI, not totally sold on a non-ADI supervising driver though.

No motorways in Dorset for example.

Or the Shetlands, Highlands, Isle of Wight,

Or Suffolk.

[TooMany2cvs]

To save this degenerating into a Clement Freud-like list of counties and regions, here's a map of Motorways and M-standard A-roads.

[Vipers]

TooMany2cvs said:

To save this degenerating into a Clement Freud-like list of counties and regions, here's a map of Motorways and M-standard A-roads.

Good one, sorted the , a non starter.

[Jobbo]

FWIW, my late uncle (who would be in his early 60s now if he were still alive) learned to drive when he lived in Ireland in the late 1970s. He never passed a test but was given a full licence in the amnesty which seems to have been 1979; here's a link: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/politics/driv...

He was always British and moved back here in the 80s, swapping it for a full UK licence.

[matchmaker]

Vipers said:

TooMany2cvs said:

To save this degenerating into a Clement Freud-like list of counties and regions, here's a map of Motorways and M-standard A-roads.

Good one, sorted the , a non starter.

It's out of date...

[mjb1]

TooMany2cvs said:

To save this degenerating into a Clement Freud-like list of counties and regions, here's a map of Motorways and M-standard A-roads.

What's an M standard A road, does it have an official definition? If it really was motorway standard, then it would be re designated as a motorway. Most (if not all?) A roads do not have a continuous hard shoulder, which is pretty significant.

Whatever it is, I'm pretty sure the A38 in Cornwall is not going to meet it since much of it is a windy single carriageway A road, with many side roads joining it without slip roads. The A30 (which is what half of that pink line is) is more like it, but even that has single carriageway sections.

Anyway, they're not really relevant to the context of this thread - learner's can drive on an A road supervised, 'M standard' or not.

[TooMany2cvs]

mjb1 said:

Anyway, they're not really relevant to the context of this thread - learner's can drive on an A road supervised, 'M standard' or not.

Quite. So let's ignore them, eh?

[Jobbo]

TooMany2cvs said:

mjb1 said:

Anyway, they're not really relevant to the context of this thread - learner's can drive on an A road supervised, 'M standard' or not.

Quite. So let's ignore them, eh?

Not on specific sections of the A55 near Colwyn Bay/Conwy they can't. Doesn't alter the fact that the map above doesn't show motorway standard A-roads at all; the A1 through Northumberland to Edinburgh is single carriageway for much of its length, for instance.

[TooMany2cvs]

Jobbo said:

Not on specific sections of the A55 near Colwyn Bay/Conwy they can't. Doesn't alter the fact that the map above doesn't show motorway standard A-roads at all; the A1 through Northumberland to Edinburgh is single carriageway for much of its length, for instance.

<shrug> Fine. They're trunk roads, then. Either way they are - as you so cogently pointed out - irrelevant to this thread.

[Vipers]

Vaud said:

alangla said:

Looking at the list of driving test centres, there's plenty of places you could do a driving test without seeing a roundabout or traffic lights, never mind a motorway. Personally I reckon there's a case for allowing provisional licence holders on motorways with an ADI, not totally sold on a non-ADI supervising driver though.

No motorways in Dorset for example.

Or the Shetlands, Highlands, Isle of Wight,

[Vaud]

Vipers said:

Or the Shetlands, Highlands, Isle of Wight,

You told us that this morning. Is your dialup that slow?

[Vipers]

Vaud said:

Vipers said:

Or the Shetlands, Highlands, Isle of Wight,

You told us that this morning. Is your dialup that slow?

Gremlins, I definitely didn't repost this, haven been here for a while, blame IOS 8.0 which is ste.

[Vipers]

liner33 said:

Even in the late 1980's the Army were still training drivers on trucks (HGV3) and awarding car licences upon passing the test.

That's what I did in the Royal Navy in 1972. Had a bike licence, obtained a provisional for a car, sent it up to get an HGV provisional, and went from a bike to a Bedford RL 3 tonner.

Passed which allowed me to drive a car, so never ever took lessons or a test in a car.

It was a 4 week course, driving 5 days a week.