Road rage video - Birmingham
Discussion
TankRizzo said:
The most depressing thing is that none of the onlookers even attempted to stop the subhuman scum. 
This is what i'm thinking... although the bloke on the left appears to make a hand gesture to stop, that's about it.What shocked me more though, was the next video along showing CCTV of a hit and run incident involving a child!
camelot1971 said:
Didn't see this anywhere on here: http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/shocking-road-...
I'm not normally shocked by "road rage" videos, but if what happened is as described by the reporter, the nutter who assaulted that woman needs to be locked away for a long time.
Violence like that is not a rare occurrence in Birmingham. I used to see it most nights when I worked on Broad Street and it was usually women involved I'm not normally shocked by "road rage" videos, but if what happened is as described by the reporter, the nutter who assaulted that woman needs to be locked away for a long time.
The older chap did try his best but I doubt he would have been a match for the scum who looks like she was high on crack.
Its difficult to intervene when you dont even know whats going on as in this case where its 2 grown women. There are situations where you can tell immediately that something isnt right e.g man beating (fighting) a woman, adult V child, man with knife V bloodied unarmed man e.t.c.
Its difficult to intervene when you dont even know whats going on as in this case where its 2 grown women. There are situations where you can tell immediately that something isnt right e.g man beating (fighting) a woman, adult V child, man with knife V bloodied unarmed man e.t.c.
Eclassy said:
Its difficult to intervene when you dont even know whats going on as in this case where its 2 grown women. There are situations where you can tell immediately that something isnt right e.g man beating (fighting) a woman, adult V child, man with knife V bloodied unarmed man e.t.c.
Would you intervene then?Oh wait!!! If you add a Police Officer struggling with a violent individual into your hypothetical scenarios I think I know the answer....
hora said:
Two women hate each other and fight
Or
Two women - one assualts the other, the other is clearly in trouble?
Same can be said for blokes instead of women in ^ scenario.
The thing is we have the luxury of viewing the lead up to the fight/beating on CCTV. The first the people in the immediate surrounding would have noticed would have been 2 people tussling.Or
Two women - one assualts the other, the other is clearly in trouble?
Same can be said for blokes instead of women in ^ scenario.
The person getting the beat down wouldnt necessarily be the victim e.g. George Zimmerman
As said, it's so easy to decide what you might of done with hindsight, but when two people start tussling right in front of you, it's very difficult to work out what to do unless you are trained.
Also as a bloke it would not look good to be seen fighting a woman, especially this particular one as you would have to be quite violent in subduing her and then there is her partner to deal with as well.
A woman, who looked pretty much like the one in the video, pushed in front of me at the queue for the check out at my local supermarket. I politely pointed this out to her but she turned to me with such venom in her face and screamed every possible swear word at a hell of a volume.
Not only was I taken aback but I noticed everyone watching me as if I was the wrong doer. It was I that had to leave with my head hung in shame.
As I said before, women are mental, approach with caution
Also as a bloke it would not look good to be seen fighting a woman, especially this particular one as you would have to be quite violent in subduing her and then there is her partner to deal with as well.
A woman, who looked pretty much like the one in the video, pushed in front of me at the queue for the check out at my local supermarket. I politely pointed this out to her but she turned to me with such venom in her face and screamed every possible swear word at a hell of a volume.
Not only was I taken aback but I noticed everyone watching me as if I was the wrong doer. It was I that had to leave with my head hung in shame.
As I said before, women are mental, approach with caution
croyde said:
Not only was I taken aback but I noticed everyone watching me as if I was the wrong doer. It was I that had to leave with my head hung in shame.
You didn't need to leave anywhere with your head hung low. You simply needed to respond in a polite but firm way. As for everyone looking at you like you're in the wrong, are you sure? Maybe that was just how you interpreted the responses of other people who were simply thinking WTF. If you knew you were in the right why did you feel shame?
croyde said:
Years ago saw a bloke attacking a woman and I intervened. She turned on me.
All women are mental so I now steer clear
I've seen this too, in Aberdeen. Guy went to help a girl being battered by 'her bloke', the pair then turned on the good samaritan. Never get into the middle of a domestic!All women are mental so I now steer clear
Devil2575 said:
You didn't need to leave anywhere with your head hung low. You simply needed to respond in a polite but firm way. As for everyone looking at you like you're in the wrong, are you sure? Maybe that was just how you interpreted the responses of other people who were simply thinking WTF.
If you knew you were in the right why did you feel shame?
'Cos the bystanders only saw a women screaming at a bloke as if he had done something inapropiate and immediately sided with her being that most of them were also women being a weekday.If you knew you were in the right why did you feel shame?
croyde said:
Devil2575 said:
You didn't need to leave anywhere with your head hung low. You simply needed to respond in a polite but firm way. As for everyone looking at you like you're in the wrong, are you sure? Maybe that was just how you interpreted the responses of other people who were simply thinking WTF.
If you knew you were in the right why did you feel shame?
'Cos the bystanders only saw a women screaming at a bloke as if he had done something inapropiate and immediately sided with her being that most of them were also women being a weekday.If you knew you were in the right why did you feel shame?
Had you responded firmly, politely and clearly so that all around could hear that you would simply like her to wait for her turn in the queue, and not push in, like everyone else in the shop you may have ended up walking out with your head held high
In my experience the person who starts shouting and screaming obsentities regardless of anything else that has gone on is normally viewed by bystanders as the person in the wrong.
Sometimes it may be the best course of action to hang your head low and just let it pass.
One night I was leaving a club and just at the exit, the lady infront of me turned around and pushed me in the chest, shouting why did you do that! I was confused and was lost for words. I asked her what and she said 'you pinched my bum'. I was bewildered and just so she didnt get more upset and create a scene, I said sorry and hurriedly exited the building.
I was still a bit shaken up as I walked to get a taxi when my mate burst out laughing. Barsteward had pinched the lady's bum!
Now I make sure I leave the bars and clubs by myself and not as part of a group. Imagine if the lady whose bum was pinched was of the same type as the scum in this video, I could have been glassed for something I had absolutely no knowledge of.
One night I was leaving a club and just at the exit, the lady infront of me turned around and pushed me in the chest, shouting why did you do that! I was confused and was lost for words. I asked her what and she said 'you pinched my bum'. I was bewildered and just so she didnt get more upset and create a scene, I said sorry and hurriedly exited the building.
I was still a bit shaken up as I walked to get a taxi when my mate burst out laughing. Barsteward had pinched the lady's bum!
Now I make sure I leave the bars and clubs by myself and not as part of a group. Imagine if the lady whose bum was pinched was of the same type as the scum in this video, I could have been glassed for something I had absolutely no knowledge of.
jshell said:
croyde said:
Years ago saw a bloke attacking a woman and I intervened. She turned on me.
All women are mental so I now steer clear
I've seen this too, in Aberdeen. Guy went to help a girl being battered by 'her bloke', the pair then turned on the good samaritan. Never get into the middle of a domestic!All women are mental so I now steer clear
Some years later in Essex, lady neighbour was screaming blue murder and the Police asked me if I was sure she was in pain or was it "something else". Eventually they arrived and arrested the guy. She left in an ambulance.
camelot1971 said:
Didn't see this anywhere on here: http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/shocking-road-...
I'm not normally shocked by "road rage" videos, but if what happened is as described by the reporter, the nutter who assaulted that woman needs to be locked away for a long time.
Not that shocked some people behave that way.Iam more shocked that nobody stopped this attack.I am old geezer but I would have got hold of the attacker.I'm not normally shocked by "road rage" videos, but if what happened is as described by the reporter, the nutter who assaulted that woman needs to be locked away for a long time.
TankRizzo said:
The most depressing thing is that none of the onlookers even attempted to stop the subhuman scum.
Exactly what I was thinking.It's a real shame the society we live in today most onlookers will simply watch or even record it on their phone! All it needed was for one person to restrain the scatty woman to diffuse the situation.
hora said:
TankRizzo said:
The most depressing thing is that none of the onlookers even attempted to stop the subhuman scum.
People will argue 'I might get stabbed' as cover-all defence for spinelessness. In the one instance where being stabbed was highly likely for intervening the two ladies who stood up to be counted in the case of Lee Rigby really are heroes. The rest of us?
Bradley1500 said:
TankRizzo said:
The most depressing thing is that none of the onlookers even attempted to stop the subhuman scum.
Exactly what I was thinking.It's a real shame the society we live in today most onlookers will simply watch or even record it on their phone! All it needed was for one person to restrain the scatty woman to diffuse the situation.
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