Seat Belts - 2014 and people still done user them!

[stupidbutkeen]

I would rather not be wearing a seat belt in a T.Bone crash.It happened to me when I was but a young lad still on my L plates. I go through the green filter light turning right when I got T.Boned by a car getting chased by the police. Mum trapped in car due to seatbelt with her hips now trapped between the door and the driver seat. Had to be cut out of the car, shattered pelvis was the worst injury that to this day she still limps and has pain.
Granted the car was a red yugo 45 and not my dads volvo 244 which may have been a lot different outcome.

Apart from that.....seatbelt all the way

Edited by stupidbutkeen on Wednesday 1st October 20:55

[austinsmirk]

Come to Bradford. I swear the inner city residents have their belts removed by the dealership on car purchase.

And their front fogs glued into "on "

And their retinas adjusted to not see the red of a traffic light lamp

[boobles]

Hugo a Gogo said:

you clearly don't know what a troll is

you can't compare NOT hitting something, to hitting something

You have come on here without contributing other than being rather silly.

That in my eyes is a troll....

Edited by boobles on Wednesday 1st October 20:50

[Hugo a Gogo]

boobles said:

You have come on here without contributing other than being rather silly.

That in my eyes is a troll....

Edited by boobles on Wednesday 1st October 20:50

yeah, it isn't though

it was a fair point, that you've completely missed

why is it ok to ride a bike, but the height of lunacy to have no seatbelt on?

your counter argument was 'you might be ok if you don't hit anything on a bike'

[Pit Pony]

The people I see not wearing them are Van drivers, and tattooed 25 year olds driving 10 year old A4's or 3 series.

I'm all for allowing people to smoke, and encouraging them to make their own choice whether to use a seat belt.

If they die, because they think they are "hard" then who really cares. I don't.

[Vipers]

Pit Pony said:

The people I see not wearing them are Van drivers, and tattooed 25 year olds driving 10 year old A4's or 3 series.

I'm all for allowing people to smoke, and encouraging them to make their own choice whether to use a seat belt.

If they die, because they think they are "hard" then who really cares. I don't.

I would rather the NHS spend their resources on saving peoples lives who take care in preserving their lives in the first place.

The answer is relatively easy, that using phones when driving, first offence £1000 fine.

Might make them think twice.

[beko1987]

I always find it odd when people don't wear a seatbelt! But then I was born in 87 when they were legal, and my mum asked if I had it on EVERY car ride, still bloody asks me now!

I find it odd not wearing one, put it on to drive around a field the other week ffs!

Surely no excuse nowadays as its been illegal for so long. Be telling my daughter in 20 years that once, you had to have a bit of paper on your windscreen as your tax...

[Pit Pony]

beko1987 said:

Be telling my daughter in 20 years that once, you had to have a bit of paper on your windscreen as your tax...

Or perhaps mentioning that you had to pay £10 to a bloke in a pub, to buy a fake one.

(Discussion I had with a bloke that had come to buy a stter I had for sale, with £100 of tax left on it - apparently that was irrelevant, as he could buy a full year for £10. I wish I'd taken the seat belts out)

[23rdian]

Vipers said:

Try a risk assessment, and the consequences of both. Question, do you wear your seat belt, just curious.

Yes, officer.

[MrTrilby]

Hugo a Gogo said:

why is it ok to ride a bike, but the height of lunacy to have no seatbelt on?

Why is it ok to ride a bike? Because they're as safe as they practically can be, and to make them safer, you'd have to ban them entirely. Do you really want that?
Why is it the height of lunacy to have no seatbelt on in a car? Because it costs you nothing to wear, yet massively reduces your chance of serious injury or death in a crash.

[Hugo a Gogo]

driving slowly massively reduces your chance of injury too

[MrTrilby]

Hugo a Gogo said:

driving slowly massively reduces your chance of injury too

I guess that's why we have mandatory speed limits as well as mandatory seat belts.

[wolves_wanderer]

Hugo a Gogo said:

yeah, it isn't though

it was a fair point, that you've completely missed

why is it ok to ride a bike, but the height of lunacy to have no seatbelt on?

your counter argument was 'you might be ok if you don't hit anything on a bike'

because you might be lucky and go sliding down the road instead of crunching into something, in a car you will definitely hit a steering wheel and/or windscreen either of which will mess you up. That was his point fairly obviously. Of course, on a bike you could have your liver ripped open by the handlebars

[boobles]

wolves_wanderer said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

yeah, it isn't though

it was a fair point, that you've completely missed

why is it ok to ride a bike, but the height of lunacy to have no seatbelt on?

your counter argument was 'you might be ok if you don't hit anything on a bike'

because you might be lucky and go sliding down the road instead of crunching into something, in a car you will definitely hit a steering wheel and/or windscreen either of which will mess you up. That was his point fairly obviously. Of course, on a bike you could have your liver ripped open by the handlebars

We really shouldn't have to explain it, should we?

That was my point exactly. Sliding of a bike without hitting anything is different to being in a car & NOT wearing a seatbelt because you WILL hit something.

Is that better Hugo?

+ if you have seatbelts on bikes, you are then attatched to that rather than being able to slide away from it. As previously said, you can't fall of a car & because cars all have crumple zones to absorb some of the energy, you are better being attatched inside the vehicle & let IT take the force but asoon as you decide NOT to wear a seatbelt you become a flying missile within that structure.....

We also advise people not to have anything loose within the car, like laptops etc because they too become missiles & if one of them hit you in the back of the head at 30mph, you are likely to say goodnight to the world.

Edited by boobles on Thursday 2nd October 06:52

Edited by boobles on Thursday 2nd October 06:53

[Hugo a Gogo]

so you can't slide off a road, into an empty field for example and not hit anything? or spin in the road and not even leave the tarmac? that's impossible, you reckon?

it's as easy to hit NOTHING in a car as it is on a bike

[Chicken]

Hugo a Gogo said:

so you can't slide off a road, into an empty field for example and not hit anything? or spin in the road and not even leave the tarmac? that's impossible, you reckon?

it's as easy to hit NOTHING in a car as it is on a bike

Jesus mate. I've just finished a twelve hour night shift and even I can understand what they are saying.

If you are on a bike and crash YOU (not the bike) have a chance of sliding along the road and decelerating slowly. You also have a helmet and leathers to protect you whilst you slow down.
If you are in a car and crash YOU (not the car) will impact something. Whether it be the windscreen, steering wheel, pillars, person in front etc.

[Hugo a Gogo]

Chicken said:

Jesus mate. I've just finished a twelve hour night shift and even I can understand what they are saying.

If you are on a bike and crash YOU (not the bike) have a chance of sliding along the road and decelerating slowly. You also have a helmet and leathers to protect you whilst you slow down.
If you are in a car and crash YOU (not the car) will impact something. Whether it be the windscreen, steering wheel, pillars, person in front etc.

bks

you CRASH a bike, you've hit something
you lose control and fall off a bike, you might not

you CRASH a car, you hit something
you lose control and spin/slide, you might not

and if your car hits nothing, YOU are not going to bash your head off the windscreen either

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Thursday 2nd October 08:37

[wolves_wanderer]

Hugo a Gogo said:

so you can't slide off a road, into an empty field for example and not hit anything? or spin in the road and not even leave the tarmac? that's impossible, you reckon?

it's as easy to hit NOTHING in a car as it is on a bike

Who said it was impossible not to hit anything? You are arguing with yourself, we are talking about accidents where you hit something, you know, the ones where seatbelts stop you hitting the steering wheel or windscreen.

[Hugo a Gogo]

yes, and in those same type of accidents on a bike? where you hit a car and stop suddenly

I've hit a car on a bike, have you?
I didn't magically slide through it or under it, I bounced off the fecking thing

my pillion went over it and hit the ground with a thump

[boobles]

Hugo are you suggesting that seatbelts on bikes would help just because you have them in cars?