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RB Will

9,666 posts

240 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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LOL he would appreciate free cash.
He doesnt travel except on rare occasions. He provides all his coaching for free, love of the sport type thing. Does 3-5 sessions a week (entrance fee for track and circuits but its only £1-2 as he just likes to cover his costs, usually gets a bottle of wine/ box of chocs from each coachee at Xmas) in Swindon mixed between Circuit training, hill training and training at the track.

You would be welcome to come down and join any session. I'm at circuits every week and sometimes the track. The rest of the time I'm busy falling over in the mud running with my dog.

DrDoofenshmirtz

15,232 posts

200 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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nick s said:
As above. Justin's method is brilliant! Great advice.
So simple common sense is now 'brilliant, great advice'?
confused



AndStilliRise

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2,295 posts

116 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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RB Will said:
LOL he would appreciate free cash.
He doesnt travel except on rare occasions. He provides all his coaching for free, love of the sport type thing. Does 3-5 sessions a week (entrance fee for track and circuits but its only £1-2 as he just likes to cover his costs, usually gets a bottle of wine/ box of chocs from each coachee at Xmas) in Swindon mixed between Circuit training, hill training and training at the track.

You would be welcome to come down and join any session. I'm at circuits every week and sometimes the track. The rest of the time I'm busy falling over in the mud running with my dog.
I have attempted the 'make friend' thing on FB, lets hope he responds!

Cheers RB.

AndStilliRise

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2,295 posts

116 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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walm said:
AndStilliRise said:
RB Will said:
Sorry for slow reply. Thats the one. He does do coaching but you will have to come and join one of the regular sessions.
I am hoping that he can do London?
Just send him the cash.

We all know you won't bother to arrange any actual training! wink
Thanks for this. Really helps.

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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AndStilliRise said:
Thanks for this. Really helps.
Sorry. I didn't mean to offend. I couldn't help myself.

AndStilliRise

Original Poster:

2,295 posts

116 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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walm said:
Sorry. I didn't mean to offend. I couldn't help myself.
smile

AndStilliRise

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2,295 posts

116 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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FYI,

I raised a MCOL claim for this a little while ago and although stated that she would defend herself - did not submit a defense in time.

I have asked the court to now raise a judgement against this.

Would anyone know if she can appeal or respond to the judgement?

Is it possible to perform a credit check on her? I may have asked before, but can not fathom why anyone would want a CCJ against their name for such a low amount of cash. Unless of course she has been through the process before and further credit embellishments wont make any difference.

photosnob

1,339 posts

118 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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AndStilliRise said:
FYI,

I raised a MCOL claim for this a little while ago and although stated that she would defend herself - did not submit a defense in time.

I have asked the court to now raise a judgement against this.

Would anyone know if she can appeal or respond to the judgement?

Is it possible to perform a credit check on her? I may have asked before, but can not fathom why anyone would want a CCJ against their name for such a low amount of cash. Unless of course she has been through the process before and further credit embellishments wont make any difference.
She can ask for the judgement to be set aside. But that's quite expensive now...

You can check if she has previous CCJ's but not a full credit check. Registry check or something... Google it.

RB Will

9,666 posts

240 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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AndStilliRise said:
I have attempted the 'make friend' thing on FB, lets hope he responds!

Cheers RB.
Sorry it's been ages but on this point I asked him if he spoke to you and he said he is happy to help but needs to know your name as he has 20+ friend requests and doesn't want em all lol.
If you want to PM me any contact details I will pass them on smile

JustinP1

13,330 posts

230 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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photosnob said:
She can ask for the judgement to be set aside. But that's quite expensive now...
Yes, IIRC it's an £80 application fee for the hearing, and (unless she asks for your consent) she'll need to actually go to that court hearing to get it set aside.

You need a reasonable reason for non-compliance though. If she's more than days late, and barring a family member dying etc or her being in hospital, then she'd likely stuffed.

My guess from the start was she's a 'head burier'. They might have fits and starts of enthusiasm, but when something starts to get out of control, they just try to forget about it.

The next act will be she'll get a judgment in default against her. She'll get a copy the same day you do in the post.

If she pays that within 30 days, she can apply to the court to get the CCJ removed. If not, and even if satisfied later, it'll stay on public record for 6 years.

What I would do, is to ensure that she is aware of the above, is when the paperwork comes through, write to her with your bank details and promising to confirm the receipt of payment so she can get the CCJ removed.

After 30 days, there's not much impetus to pay you.

Eclassy

1,201 posts

122 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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JustinP1 said:
Yes, IIRC it's an £80 application fee for the hearing, and (unless she asks for your consent) she'll need to actually go to that court hearing to get it set aside.
£155 now

AndStilliRise

Original Poster:

2,295 posts

116 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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RB Will said:
Sorry it's been ages but on this point I asked him if he spoke to you and he said he is happy to help but needs to know your name as he has 20+ friend requests and doesn't want em all lol.
If you want to PM me any contact details I will pass them on smile
PM Sent - thanks dude.

AndStilliRise

Original Poster:

2,295 posts

116 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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JustinP1 said:
Yes, IIRC it's an £80 application fee for the hearing, and (unless she asks for your consent) she'll need to actually go to that court hearing to get it set aside.

You need a reasonable reason for non-compliance though. If she's more than days late, and barring a family member dying etc or her being in hospital, then she'd likely stuffed.

My guess from the start was she's a 'head burier'. They might have fits and starts of enthusiasm, but when something starts to get out of control, they just try to forget about it.

The next act will be she'll get a judgment in default against her. She'll get a copy the same day you do in the post.

If she pays that within 30 days, she can apply to the court to get the CCJ removed. If not, and even if satisfied later, it'll stay on public record for 6 years.

What I would do, is to ensure that she is aware of the above, is when the paperwork comes through, write to her with your bank details and promising to confirm the receipt of payment so she can get the CCJ removed.

After 30 days, there's not much impetus to pay you.
I am getting that impression. Considering it was for such a low amount - why would anyone want a CCJ for a couple of hundred quid. At one point before all this I asked her to settle with me by paying back half the money and she refused.

The worst thing is that she was a young girl trying to setup a business (actually asked me for advice!) so this could cause her all kinds of problems.

AndStilliRise

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2,295 posts

116 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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An update.

Out of the blue one the people who knows us both phoned me up and said the cash was ready to be collected. Printed off and signed something to say it had been paid and collected the cash with the court fees.

Now should i let the court know, or leave it up to her, considering the battle she started and now lost.

?




trashbat

6,006 posts

153 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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You need to let the court know. The documents will say as much.

IntriguedUser

989 posts

121 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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JustinP1 said:
If it's enough to annoy you, and you feel like investing a bit of time, you could end up being quite persuasive.


What I've done before is creating a 'chance meeting' with the person, and instead of embarrassing them, pretended that I've not cottoned on that I've been scammed.

So, for example:

"Oh, Ian, great to see you! I've been trying to get in touch with you for ages about booking in my first session, but I've had terrible problems with my phone - can we do tomorrow?"

Starting on a friendly basis might just get them to treat you the same - even admit that they can't fit you in and give your money back.

If you go in down the 'why have you scammed me' route, they'll immediately become defensive and you'll be back to square one.
A few years ago when I was 16, my friend knocked for me asking to borrow my bike, I said yes, as I had a week off work and didn't need it, I said I need it by sunday. I knew what he was using the bike for, up and down the local area dropping off 'goods' in exchange for money. Sunday came and he busied all my calls and ignored my text messages.

I decided to meet up with him, so I called his line making sure I typed 141 to make it appear unknown, I then requested some 'goods' and said to meet at X place at X time, the look on his face when he saw me, I've never seen someone make excuses so many excuses all one after the other.

Not sure how relevant my story is, but I do see some links.

I would do as above, coincidentally meet up, play dumb and give them an opportunity to give you your money back. If they don't by the end of the conversation/coincidental meet, I'd change tones and just get to the point...

JustinP1

13,330 posts

230 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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AndStilliRise said:
An update.

Out of the blue one the people who knows us both phoned me up and said the cash was ready to be collected. Printed off and signed something to say it had been paid and collected the cash with the court fees.

Now should i let the court know, or leave it up to her, considering the battle she started and now lost.

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Did you get a judgment in default?

If you did, it's up to her to do the running. If she wants the CCJ removed she needs to apply to the court with the evidence you've signed.

poo at Paul's

14,149 posts

175 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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GI'd leave it to her to inform the court. You could even dispute it and say the money paid was a seperate transaction agreed, her paying 160 quid for you to wipe your cock on the curtains.
Then go round and wipe your cock on her curtains.