Private plate conundrum
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We bought a new car for my other half on the 7th of September. Very happy with the car and would recommend the dealer we used to anyone. No problem there. The issue is that the car had a private plate on it when we bought it which was apparently in the process of being transferred back to it's original one and the log book slip was retained by the dealer until this was sorted out. Plan was we would then pop back in, get them to change the plates over to ones with their logo on and collect the log book. This was a concern but the car was cheap and worth the risk so we insured it under the private plate on the understanding it would transfer within a couple of weeks and the insurance company would change it free of charge if it was within that time.
The issue now is that the car is STILL on it's private plate and so we will have to pay an admin fee to the insurer and the temporary use of residents CC has expired which is costing lots. I have spoken to the dealer and they have chased the previous owner who apparently had his request for transfer rejected by the DVLA or something. This was over a week ago. He also told me that this doesn't tend to happen as they hold a £250 deposit for cars with private plates from the previous owner to encourage them to sort out the paperwork. They still have this and the DVLA tell us the car is still registered to the dealer under the private plate.
Because this is dragging on I wonder if I am within my rights now to tell the dealer we are keeping the plate and he can tell the previous owner if he wants it back he can contact us directly. We don't particularly care about keeping it anyway. Can I apply for a retrospective log book based on the private plate? Is there anything stopping us from doing this or a specific time frame we should allow? Never had a private plate before and don't have a clue how they work. Or what the point is.
We bought a new car for my other half on the 7th of September. Very happy with the car and would recommend the dealer we used to anyone. No problem there. The issue is that the car had a private plate on it when we bought it which was apparently in the process of being transferred back to it's original one and the log book slip was retained by the dealer until this was sorted out. Plan was we would then pop back in, get them to change the plates over to ones with their logo on and collect the log book. This was a concern but the car was cheap and worth the risk so we insured it under the private plate on the understanding it would transfer within a couple of weeks and the insurance company would change it free of charge if it was within that time.
The issue now is that the car is STILL on it's private plate and so we will have to pay an admin fee to the insurer and the temporary use of residents CC has expired which is costing lots. I have spoken to the dealer and they have chased the previous owner who apparently had his request for transfer rejected by the DVLA or something. This was over a week ago. He also told me that this doesn't tend to happen as they hold a £250 deposit for cars with private plates from the previous owner to encourage them to sort out the paperwork. They still have this and the DVLA tell us the car is still registered to the dealer under the private plate.
Because this is dragging on I wonder if I am within my rights now to tell the dealer we are keeping the plate and he can tell the previous owner if he wants it back he can contact us directly. We don't particularly care about keeping it anyway. Can I apply for a retrospective log book based on the private plate? Is there anything stopping us from doing this or a specific time frame we should allow? Never had a private plate before and don't have a clue how they work. Or what the point is.
It's a side issue really but it would obviously be nice to get it sorted!StoatInACoat said:
Not sure if this is the right place for this but if not please feel free to move.
We bought a new car for my other half on the 7th of September. Very happy with the car and would recommend the dealer we used to anyone. No problem there. The issue is that the car had a private plate on it when we bought it which was apparently in the process of being transferred back to it's original one and the log book slip was retained by the dealer until this was sorted out. Plan was we would then pop back in, get them to change the plates over to ones with their logo on and collect the log book. This was a concern but the car was cheap and worth the risk so we insured it under the private plate on the understanding it would transfer within a couple of weeks and the insurance company would change it free of charge if it was within that time.
The issue now is that the car is STILL on it's private plate and so we will have to pay an admin fee to the insurer and the temporary use of residents CC has expired which is costing lots. I have spoken to the dealer and they have chased the previous owner who apparently had his request for transfer rejected by the DVLA or something. This was over a week ago. He also told me that this doesn't tend to happen as they hold a £250 deposit for cars with private plates from the previous owner to encourage them to sort out the paperwork. They still have this and the DVLA tell us the car is still registered to the dealer under the private plate.
Because this is dragging on I wonder if I am within my rights now to tell the dealer we are keeping the plate and he can tell the previous owner if he wants it back he can contact us directly. We don't particularly care about keeping it anyway. Can I apply for a retrospective log book based on the private plate? Is there anything stopping us from doing this or a specific time frame we should allow? Never had a private plate before and don't have a clue how they work. Or what the point is.
Confusion right there. If car was registered to the dealer (rather than being 'in trade') complete with the private plate then the previous owner will no longer have any rights to the VRM. This might explain why the latter has had his request rejected. You need ask the dealer some specific questions. We bought a new car for my other half on the 7th of September. Very happy with the car and would recommend the dealer we used to anyone. No problem there. The issue is that the car had a private plate on it when we bought it which was apparently in the process of being transferred back to it's original one and the log book slip was retained by the dealer until this was sorted out. Plan was we would then pop back in, get them to change the plates over to ones with their logo on and collect the log book. This was a concern but the car was cheap and worth the risk so we insured it under the private plate on the understanding it would transfer within a couple of weeks and the insurance company would change it free of charge if it was within that time.
The issue now is that the car is STILL on it's private plate and so we will have to pay an admin fee to the insurer and the temporary use of residents CC has expired which is costing lots. I have spoken to the dealer and they have chased the previous owner who apparently had his request for transfer rejected by the DVLA or something. This was over a week ago. He also told me that this doesn't tend to happen as they hold a £250 deposit for cars with private plates from the previous owner to encourage them to sort out the paperwork. They still have this and the DVLA tell us the car is still registered to the dealer under the private plate.
Because this is dragging on I wonder if I am within my rights now to tell the dealer we are keeping the plate and he can tell the previous owner if he wants it back he can contact us directly. We don't particularly care about keeping it anyway. Can I apply for a retrospective log book based on the private plate? Is there anything stopping us from doing this or a specific time frame we should allow? Never had a private plate before and don't have a clue how they work. Or what the point is.
Otoh it could be our friends at the DVLA having another bout of indigestion.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-new...
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php...
Back in the 'good old days' you could deal face-to-face with knowledgeable people in local DVLA offcies. The one near me was excellent. Now everyone has to deal with Swansea and we all know what they are (in)capable of.
Nobody in their right mind should ever part with a car still registered with a private plate that they want to keep.
Do the swap first, or put the plate on retention if you are not yet registered as the RK of the next car you want to put it on.
I was a bit worried about the DVLA. Moreso because they first said it was registered with the dealer and they had no other correspondence. Then they admitted even if they had correspondence and it had been rejected it wouldn't even show up on their system and then finally that actually it had been rejected but they don't know why. Then they told my girlfriend that she needed to worry about being untaxed despite having a disc under the old system until January 2015 linked to this private bloody plate. We did assume we would have to re-tax it when the original plate was transferred.
So apply for V62, register it under it's current private plate, move on and sod the previous owner who should have sorted this out prior to sale?
So apply for V62, register it under it's current private plate, move on and sod the previous owner who should have sorted this out prior to sale?
Edited by StoatInACoat on Friday 17th October 13:46
StoatInACoat said:
I was a bit worried about the DVLA. Moreso because they first said it was registered with the dealer and they had no other correspondence. Then they admitted even if they had correspondence and it had been rejected it wouldn't even show up on their system and then finally that actually it had been rejected but they don't know why. Then they told my girlfriend that she needed to worry about being untaxed despite having a disc under the old system until January 2015 linked to this private bloody plate. We did assume we would have to re-tax it when the original plate was transferred.
So apply for V62, register it under it's current private plate, move on and sod the previous owner who should have sorted this out prior to sale?
Yup - that's what I'd do, then at your convenience revert to a standard reg and sell the private plate on retention. So apply for V62, register it under it's current private plate, move on and sod the previous owner who should have sorted this out prior to sale?
Edited by StoatInACoat on Friday 17th October 13:46
We bought a car on a Saturday from a dealer 200 miles away from us, car had private plate which dealer said previous owner was going to change over the following week but gave us the paperwork to tax the vehicle which we promptly did in the local post office, this automatically transferred the number to us and we never heard anymore about it.
In simple terms, the car is now 'in trade' which means that the previous owner foolishly filled out the disposal notice and sent it off to DVLA before getting the plate off the car. As has been mentioned, the previous owner is now no longer the owner and has lost all rights to the plate. However, depending on how good you feel YOU can put that number on retention and nominate the previous owner to be allowed to use the plate. Or you could always blackmail the previous owner as is happening in another thread about private plates in GG. (I'm sure you wouldn't but people do)
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