Obtaining Private Reg Illegally.

Obtaining Private Reg Illegally.

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Bungleaio

6,337 posts

203 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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Was it a particularly valuable plate or more sentimental?

Rule number one for selling a car with a private plate if you don't want to risk losing it is to transfer it off before putting the car up for sale. Yes you can transfer and sell at the same time but it relies on other people more so than transferring then selling.

B'stard Child

28,447 posts

247 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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Bish said:
B'stard Child said:
Not what you said earlier - you said sent off 3 days later.

First class post on the day from the buyer would have beaten that easily
You're quite right. I think it was 2 to 3 days later, my mistake. A lesson learnt.

I suppose an iota of trust is involved with this - must remember not trust anyone or anything!
Care to answer my other points?

RichB

51,605 posts

285 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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Stop beating 'round the bush, what was the car and what was the plate?

B'stard Child

28,447 posts

247 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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Motorrad said:
A shame but I often wonder who in their right mind would sell a car without putting their plate on retention?

Why the fk would I as a purchaser want to fk about with someone else's admin problem and probably end up paying for the privilege (insurance admin fees etc etc. I'll just move on and buy a different car from someone who isn't so lazy/tight.
I've only ever transferred a plate in one way

Own car with vanity plate
Buy new car with age related plate
Send all paperwork off together old car gets old plate (previously displayed on same car), new car gets Vanity plate
Sell old car - freaking useless at that bit!!

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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Bish said:
Not lazy or tight............he's just 85 and a little slow off the mark and the purchaser was informed that the transfer was imminent and he insisted on coming down that day and we put a clause on the receipt stating that it formed no part of the sale and would forward all docs across.

Listen I know we made an error (now!) but we did all we could to make it simple. 99% of the population would have gone smoothly.
Clause on the receipt ? What was the exact wording and did the buyer sign it ? It might have some worth.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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Bish said:
Not lazy or tight............he's just 85 and a little slow off the mark and the purchaser was informed that the transfer was imminent and he insisted on coming down that day and we put a clause on the receipt stating that it formed no part of the sale and would forward all docs across.

Listen I know we made an error (now!) but we did all we could to make it simple. 99% of the population would have gone smoothly.
Sorry, I should have made clear I was NOT referring to you or your Father in those comments- you made clear that wasn't the case. It was just a general comment about people I've dealt with who wanted me to do all the work for them.

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

162 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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My next door neighbour bought a new car about 6 months ago, and put his old private plate on it.

The guy he sold his car to is also using his number plate.

You read that right - they are both driving around is seperate cars with the SAME PLATE. It is quite funny when his friend comes round and both are parked on his drive with the same plate.

Fluid

1,729 posts

186 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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twoblacklines said:
My next door neighbour bought a new car about 6 months ago, and put his old private plate on it.

The guy he sold his car to is also using his number plate.

You read that right - they are both driving around is seperate cars with the SAME PLATE. It is quite funny when his friend comes round and both are parked on his drive with the same plate.
Have you thought about reporting it?


Bungleaio

6,337 posts

203 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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Which car has the correct plate on? You can see on the dvla vehicle check.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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B'stard Child said:
Motorrad said:
A shame but I often wonder who in their right mind would sell a car without putting their plate on retention?

Why the fk would I as a purchaser want to fk about with someone else's admin problem and probably end up paying for the privilege (insurance admin fees etc etc. I'll just move on and buy a different car from someone who isn't so lazy/tight.
I've only ever transferred a plate in one way

Own car with vanity plate
Buy new car with age related plate
Send all paperwork off together old car gets old plate (previously displayed on same car), new car gets Vanity plate
Sell old car - freaking useless at that bit!!
You can do it that way, but it's basic stuff to put a number on retention and get the originally issued number on the car you are selling. Sell it, get your next car and then allocate the retained number to it. Costs £25 more to put a number on retention, compared with transferring between two cars that you own. Well worth it to avoid theses problems.


TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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Bungleaio said:
Which car has the correct plate on? You can see on the dvla vehicle check.
I'll have a quid on "neither"...

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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REALIST123 said:
You can do it that way, but it's basic stuff to put a number on retention and get the originally issued number on the car you are selling. Sell it, get your next car and then allocate the retained number to it. Costs £25 more to put a number on retention, compared with transferring between two cars that you own. Well worth it to avoid theses problems.
Anyone else find it annoying when people sell cars, but want to keep their plate, and won't transfer back to old plate until it sells?

I bought a passat once and had to wait 6 gruelling weeks for the new V5 before I could use it :/

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Fluid said:
Have you thought about reporting it?
Yes but he fixes shotguns for a living so perhaps not the best idea?

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Bungleaio said:
Which car has the correct plate on? You can see on the dvla vehicle check.
Both of them come up as "Vehicle not found" on dvla website?

Adrian E

3,248 posts

177 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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twoblacklines said:
Bungleaio said:
Which car has the correct plate on? You can see on the dvla vehicle check.
Both of them come up as "Vehicle not found" on dvla website?
So basically neither of them have done the proper paperwork then!

Ref OP situation, as much as it's a hassle the only solution is to do retention prior to sale. We had a buyer lined up for my wife's old A6 and we knew when we were getting the new car but the RISK of the v5c not being available for the new car (the dealer was waiting for it to come back from having a plate removed) meant we went the retention route. £120 vs £80, or thereabouts. We also had to buy new plates to put on the old car and convince our insurer it wasn't reasonable for them to charge £40 for an 'admin change' on a car we'd be selling the following week!

If the OPs car was sold to a trader then you've got no hope in hell of getting the plate back, unless you contact the person who he has sold it to to enquire if they actually want the plate (assuming dealer hasn't put it on retention to sell, of course)

jshell

11,032 posts

206 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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TooMany2cvs said:
I'll have a quid on "neither"...
Winner!