Tax refund on a rejected car

[Red Devil]

Kong said:

The problem is he wants a refund for the tax but I spoke to the DVLA and they said nothing can be refunded until I send off the v5c.

If I send off the v5c to him, then he sends it back to me I'll have 2 extra owners on the logbook which will reduce the cars value and make it harder to sell. Also I need to trust the DVLA, the postal service and most importantly the buyer to do their part properly. What if he gets the logbook in his name and forgets to send it or holds me to random?

Why on earth would you send your V5C to him? That's the very last thing you should contemplate doing. Notifying the DVLA of a change of RK is the seller's responsibility.

Kong said:

I'm in two minds whether to sell the car to someone else or just keep it. If i keep it and do nothing can I just drive it using the tax he's paid? I'm happy to pay him the cost of the tax.

That might work. Of course if you hang on to the V5C neither of you will get any refund.

AFAIK the DVLA only cares that a vehicle is taxed: not whose money has paid for it. So presumably you could still drive it if their record shows that it is. Use this link to find out.
Personally I wouldn't refund him the VED. It's part of the price he pays for you agreeing to take the car back. YMMV.
Doing it the "right" way means you'll need to make sure he gives you the V5C/2 from the V5C in his name. Plus there will be 2 additional keepers on the vehicle record.

Kong said:

If I sell it to someone else using the normal channels (I still have the filled in v5c and green slip he used to tax it) what happens to the tax the seller paid? Does it go to his card or paid to me? Also can it be taxed twice using the same green slip? I don't want to sell it to someone else and find they can't tax it.

No, it can't be taxed twice using the same V5C/2 (see below).

How come you still have the V5C/2 (New keeper slip)? That is the buyer's document. Did he return it to you when you took the car back? If so, that might work to your advantage.
I don't know for sure though as I've never been in that situation. What is certain is that if you don't send your V5C to the DVLA, the keeper record won't be updated.

Unless you use the online facility next time you sell, you'll need a replacement because the existing one has been completed with the wrong buyer's info on it (see above).

[Kong]

Thank you for the replies, you've been really informative - I was expecting this to be a total blank.

The buyer returned everything including the green slip so I can either tipex his details on the v5c or order a new one for £25. The DVLA has no record of his existence other than his payment details for the tax.

Interesting I just tried to tax the car again myself using the green slip and it let me, although I didn't proceed with payment.

I could try and tax it using my v5c but I'd want to be sure he'd get his refund and I could then just sell the car as normal. I want to be sure him taxing it using the green slip hasn't caused a blockage somewhere in the system.

I liked the idea of SORNing the car then re-taxing it because that would definitely get his refund and removes him from the picture.

I spoke to the DVLA and the girl said the only way of doing it is by signing over the RK document to him. But that surely can't be right. Hypothetically what if I asked my aging mother to tax my car for me online and she mistakenly used the reference number from the green slip instead of the v5c, surely I wouldn't need to sell the car to someone to get it shaken out of the system!

Thanks again for your help, I just really don't want to be dealing with this guy any more!

[KevinCamaroSS]

Kong said:

Thank you for the replies, you've been really informative - I was expecting this to be a total blank.

The buyer returned everything including the green slip so I can either tipex his details on the v5c or order a new one for £25. The DVLA has no record of his existence other than his payment details for the tax.

Interesting I just tried to tax the car again myself using the green slip and it let me, although I didn't proceed with payment.

I could try and tax it using my v5c but I'd want to be sure he'd get his refund and I could then just sell the car as normal. I want to be sure him taxing it using the green slip hasn't caused a blockage somewhere in the system.

I liked the idea of SORNing the car then re-taxing it because that would definitely get his refund and removes him from the picture.

I spoke to the DVLA and the girl said the only way of doing it is by signing over the RK document to him. But that surely can't be right. Hypothetically what if I asked my aging mother to tax my car for me online and she mistakenly used the reference number from the green slip instead of the v5c, surely I wouldn't need to sell the car to someone to get it shaken out of the system!

Thanks again for your help, I just really don't want to be dealing with this guy any more!

Has he really taxed the car? Proof?

In any case it is his problem, not yours.

With no keeper change (V5C not sent, online not done) the car is still taxed in your name.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Thread resurrection!

I'm rejecting a vehicle owned for one day. I won't receive a new V5 as the dealer still has the old V5.

How would a refund (less one month) work in this situation?

Call dvla?

[tedblog]

All cars i have sold and purchased recently i do the change of ownership online there and then. Dealers have done the same. When ive purchased from a dealer ive been asked to tax the car myself in the showroom. If i do reject it then i would get the money back automatically

[Alucidnation]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

Thread resurrection!

I'm rejecting a vehicle owned for one day. I won't receive a new V5 as the dealer still has the old V5.

How would a refund (less one month) work in this situation?

Call dvla?

Really?

One day?

What’s up with it?

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Delivered after online/phone conversation.

Rear tyres... notchy 2/3rd gear.

[Alucidnation]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

Delivered after online/phone conversation.

Rear tyres... notchy 2/3rd gear.

Fair enough, although is it not something that can be mutually sorted if you like the car?

Any warranty supplied with it? (I know many are not worth the paper etc).

[Hugo Stiglitz]

That's the thing. It came with two front runflats, two brand new extremely poor Sunny no run flat rears. The dealer states their policy is if under 3mm they put anything on. So you can't argue.

The gearbox I'm not messing about with. That is clear as day and would have been spotted by the driver at least or their checks.

Then the run flat on the offside front has outer wear down to less than 1mm.

I've paid a dealer price, yet I'd end up spending at least 4xtyres and the recall (no biggie and I was happy to do just that but when all added up)...then the gearbox on day one.

It's probably just a oil change but again, who would end up paying?

[Pegscratch]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

It's probably just a oil change but again, who would end up paying?

If it's one pair of cogs it's rarely oil.

Stiff/notchy box, yes. Box full of neutrals on a bike, maybe. Second to third issues? Synchro. Unless it's a unicorn, do what you're doing at a rate of knots. Tax I think is one of those things you're stuck with the 1 month cost on, but I'm no specialist there. Just call the DVLA and wait in the requisite 6 hour queue.