Racism ?

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anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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MrBarry123 said:
Nigel Worc's said:
Hmm, sounds bks to me.

If the above is true, why don't we see Muslims in court on charges of racism ?
Brilliant.

I'm afraid that I put more value in the definitions offered by the Oxford Dictionary than a bloke who doesn't understand the term racism and uses this lack of understanding to justify his own racist tendencies.

And please explain what you mean by your other point?
The oxford online dictionary doesn't mention religion in its definition of race, you are quoting Wikipedia. I'm not saying you aren't correct in your overall point, but you are playing fast and loose with your sources to try and give your argument more credence.


Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 28th October 19:25

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

129 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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mybrainhurts said:
You ain't seen me, right..?
Deal. Inspector won't authirise more OT.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

129 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Deal. Inspector won't authorise more OT.

Blakewater

4,310 posts

158 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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As in my example, it's highly unlikely the Daily Mail version of events given after this bloke rang them and gave his side of the story is entirely true. He was most likely a lot more aggressive and unpleasant than simply saying he's not a Muslim and the staff probably weren't as heavy handed as he implies. The Daily Mail just like an article about a badly done to old duffer with a picture of his or her "Victim of my own stupidity" face to accompany it.

Hackney

6,852 posts

209 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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OTBC said:
Hackney said:
Context?
You mean being asked to remove your shoes, like you would if you were a muslim upon entering a mosque?
That kind of context?
Sorry, I meant the actual context, not stuff you've made up.
I didn't make it up, for all we know this is what happened at the airport..... it not being a mosque and all.

OTBC

289 posts

123 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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He'd just set a security alarm off before boarding a plane. You reckon that's a good time for him to argue with security?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Anyone who thinks it's racist obviously hasn't seen real racism in action. We've come a long way from the NF days I grew up in, but this sort of thing does a huge disservice to genuinely racist incidents.

If I had just read that it was the script of a new Python sketch I'd believe it...

OTBC

289 posts

123 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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I wasn't there so I dunno. If he casually conflated being Muslim with being a terrorist I'd be interested in hearing why you don't think that's racist.

iwantagta

1,323 posts

146 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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OTBC said:
I wasn't there so I dunno. If he casually conflated being Muslim with being a terrorist I'd be interested in hearing why you don't think that's racist.
HE DID NOT SAY BEING A MUSLIM MADE YOU A TERRORIST!!!!!!!

He inferred that Muslims are more likely to be terrorists than non-muslims so why bother searching the shoes of non-muslims. Yes its a pointless, facetious comment and not somewhere I would go (especially in an airport) but being stupid isn't a crime.

I'm really sorry if its beyond the left wing vision of reality but unfortunately the Islamic faith has a substantial issue at present.

MI5 are also racist: https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/the-threats/terrorism/...

OTBC

289 posts

123 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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take a look at my post again, I said I don't know what he meant but if he equates "Muslim" with "terrorist" then he's very stupid and racist.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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OTBC said:
take a look at my post again, I said I don't know what he meant but if he equates "Muslim" with "terrorist" then he's very stupid and racist.
Stupid, yes, but racist, no.

OTBC

289 posts

123 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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So you'd have no problem with a Muslim equating "white" with "paedophile", the respective proportions being similar?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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OTBC said:
So you'd have no problem with a Muslim equating "white" with "paedophile", the respective proportions being similar?
That would be a mistake, as in the present case. Not racism.

This white/paedo thing is getting a bit tired now, old boy.

OTBC

289 posts

123 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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You don't think it would be racist if a Muslim equated white people with paedophiles? Can you explain why? Mistakes that ascribe criminality to a race aren't racist?

MrBarry123

6,028 posts

122 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Bluequay said:
The oxford online dictionary doesn't mention religion in its definition of race, you are quoting Wikipedia. I'm not saying you aren't correct in your overall point, but you are playing fast and loose with your sources to try and give your argument more credence.


Edited by Bluequay on Tuesday 28th October 19:25
Refer to the second definition under 1.2 and the use of the term 'etc.'. I'm sure religion would fall into the other areas covered.

iwantagta

1,323 posts

146 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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OTBC said:
You don't think it would be racist if a Muslim equated white people with paedophiles? Can you explain why? Mistakes that ascribe criminality to a race aren't racist?
Unfortunately they also have a fair bit of that going on to:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29794729

If a Muslim said "I can't be a paedo as i'm not white" then i'd suggest that they should read the news, I wouldn't however get offended and get them arrested for being a racist.

iwantagta

1,323 posts

146 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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OTBC said:
take a look at my post again, I said I don't know what he meant but if he equates "Muslim" with "terrorist" then he's very stupid and racist.
Agreed. However what he reportedly said does not equate the two.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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OTBC said:
You don't think it would be racist if a Muslim equated white people with paedophiles?
Correct.

OTBC said:
Can you explain why?
No, because it's been done to death already.

Why are you getting so wound up about this and why does your ilk keep banging on about white paedophiles? What's the common link between you, is there a crusading PC pub round here somewhere?

OTBC

289 posts

123 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Yes, we meet in a pub and say you must be a paedophile cos you're white, but not in a racist way.

Hackney

6,852 posts

209 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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OTBC said:
Yes, we meet in a pub and say you must be a paedophile cos you're white, but not in a racist way.
I'm flattered and all, but I'm going to have to decline your invitation to meet.
Especially if you're likely to call me a paedophile on a first date.