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9mm said:
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OTBC said:
Google the phrase " Pretending that the abuse of children in linked to race is not helpful, in Rotherham the children were targeted because of their vulnerability, the same as the white British abusers of children in care homes. Trying to make capital out of abused children is sick, dishonest and an insult to the victims"
And see what comes up.
You miss the point.And see what comes up.
The abuse continued purely because of racism. That racism, masquerading as political correctness, allowed muslim pedos to carry on molesting for the sole reason that they were muslim. That is the racist part, not the ethnicity of the victims.
Had the pedos been white, they'd have been in jail decades ago. Because they're none white Muslims, the race card got whipped out and overplayed.
You can't judge the prevalence of noncing within ethnic groups based on prison population if one ethnic group is getting a free pass.
Edited by LucreLout on Wednesday 29th October 09:44
Andehh said:
So what are all of your feelings on those burning poppies, or cheering at soldiers funerals? Are the police getting involved and legals blocking them all 'liberal PC crap". Should it be 100% everyone has their own views and is fully entitled to express them whenever, and wherever they please?
Exactly, it's OK as long as they agree with the view offered. LucreLout said:
You miss the point.
The abuse continued purely because of racism. That racism, masquerading as political correctness, allowed muslim pedos ro carry on molesting for the sole reason that they were muslim. That is the racist part, not the ethnicity of the victims.
Had the pedos been white, they'd have been in jail decades ago. Because they're bone white Muslims, the race card got whipped out and overplayed.
You can't judge the prevalence of noncing within ethnic groups based on prison population if one ethnic group is getting a free pass.
A free pass? You mean like the convictions of the white paedophiles that preyed on children at Kincora, Elm House, Camden, Twickenham? Remind me, how many convictions of these white paedophiles have there been so far? The abuse continued purely because of racism. That racism, masquerading as political correctness, allowed muslim pedos ro carry on molesting for the sole reason that they were muslim. That is the racist part, not the ethnicity of the victims.
Had the pedos been white, they'd have been in jail decades ago. Because they're bone white Muslims, the race card got whipped out and overplayed.
You can't judge the prevalence of noncing within ethnic groups based on prison population if one ethnic group is getting a free pass.
None.
There is no doubt that the abuse of children was hushed up. Pretending that it was only hushed up when Muslims were the protagonists is insultingly dishonest.
OTBC said:
A free pass? You mean like the convictions of the white paedophiles that preyed on children at Kincora, Elm House, Camden, Twickenham? Remind me, how many convictions of these white paedophiles have there been so far?
None.
There is no doubt that the abuse of children was hushed up. Pretending that it was only hushed up when Muslims were the protagonists is insultingly dishonest.
In the cases at Rotherham it was. To pretend otherwise is what perpetuated the whole mess, as well as insultingly dishonest.None.
There is no doubt that the abuse of children was hushed up. Pretending that it was only hushed up when Muslims were the protagonists is insultingly dishonest.
LucreLout said:
OTBC said:
A free pass? You mean like the convictions of the white paedophiles that preyed on children at Kincora, Elm House, Camden, Twickenham? Remind me, how many convictions of these white paedophiles have there been so far?
None.
There is no doubt that the abuse of children was hushed up. Pretending that it was only hushed up when Muslims were the protagonists is insultingly dishonest.
In the cases at Rotherham it was. To pretend otherwise is what perpetuated the whole mess, as well as insultingly dishonest.None.
There is no doubt that the abuse of children was hushed up. Pretending that it was only hushed up when Muslims were the protagonists is insultingly dishonest.
You think the only area where child abuse was hushed up was when Muslims were the culprits? Like those famous Muslims Savile, Harris, Clifford, Travis, Father John the catholic priest who married frank Bruno?
Abusers are clever. They target the vulnerable, what happened in Rotherham is not remarkable, the attackers were not solely Muslim, you are insulting victims by trying to make racist capital out of the abuse of children.
Abusers are clever. They target the vulnerable, what happened in Rotherham is not remarkable, the attackers were not solely Muslim, you are insulting victims by trying to make racist capital out of the abuse of children.
Do you know how many children go missing from care every year? Do you know what happened in Camden, Elm House, Dolphin Court? Why is it that only certain types of abuse seem to interest you, the type perpetrated by Muslims? Can you see how dangerous this is? It could lead you into a blind alley, which is more important, to stop the wholesale abuse of children or pretend that what happened in Rotherham was especially remarkable and special? It wasn't. The same police failures, the same destruction of evidence by the cops, the same victims being told "nobody will believe you". It's the same old predictable, depressing story which is what makes it so annoying when people pretend what happened in Rotherham was somehow special or noteworthy, it simply follows the pattern.
OTBC said:
You think the only area where child abuse was hushed up was when Muslims were the culprits? Like those famous Muslims Savile, Harris, Clifford, Travis, Father John the catholic priest who married frank Bruno?
No, but but it definitely was a case where politically correct racism was allowed to obscure the victims. Those doing the obscuring have admitted as much, so you do yourself no favours pretending that it ain't so.Saville et al were hushed up because of celebrity. That has no bearing on the racism at the heart of the Rotherham issue. It is, however, equally disgusting.
OTBC said:
Do you know how many children go missing from care every year? Do you know what happened in Camden, Elm House, Dolphin Court? Why is it that only certain types of abuse seem to interest you, the type perpetrated by Muslims? Can you see how dangerous this is? It could lead you into a blind alley, which is more important, to stop the wholesale abuse of children or pretend that what happened in Rotherham was especially remarkable and special? It wasn't. The same police failures, the same destruction of evidence by the cops, the same victims being told "nobody will believe you". It's the same old predictable, depressing story which is what makes it so annoying when people pretend what happened in Rotherham was somehow special or noteworthy, it simply follows the pattern.
Because we always hear "oh look over there" excuses every time the issue is bought up.Perhaps if you hadn't bought it up in the first place as a diversionary tactic this conversation wouldn't be happening...
The racism charge is by no means clear, social services were over stretched and the police failures have been repeated in untold similar cases where race isn't an issue. I'm worried that claiming there was something unique about Rotherham is a red herring, there really wasn't, and those far right nut jobs in the BNP and EDL tried to make disgusting capital out of what was the same old story of institutional apathy and incompetence.
As an aside, did anyone see the MP upbraided yesterday for making claims about a certain ex Home Office Minister? Made under parliamentary privilege so I'm certainly not going to repeat them here. It's a fascinating story that would have radical repercussions when/if it gets uncovered.
As an aside, did anyone see the MP upbraided yesterday for making claims about a certain ex Home Office Minister? Made under parliamentary privilege so I'm certainly not going to repeat them here. It's a fascinating story that would have radical repercussions when/if it gets uncovered.
tony wright said:
9mm said:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b48_1305790944
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uploader said:
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9mm said:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b48_1305790944
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Brilliant! Anyone been offended recently? Watch, listen and learn.
Also.. Spot on!!
MrBarry123 said:
Bluequay said:
The oxford online dictionary doesn't mention religion in its definition of race, you are quoting Wikipedia. I'm not saying you aren't correct in your overall point, but you are playing fast and loose with your sources to try and give your argument more credence.
Refer to the second definition under 1.2 and the use of the term 'etc.'. I'm sure religion would fall into the other areas covered.Edited by Bluequay on Tuesday 28th October 19:25
CPS said:
The Stephen Lawrence Inquiry Report was published in February 1999, and defined a racist incident as:
˜... any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person."
We accept this definition.
We define a religious incident as:
"Any incident which is believed to be motivated because of a person's religion or perceived religion, by the victim or any other person".
Both definitions help us to identify all racist or religious incidents on our case files to make sure we take the racist or religious element into account when we make decisions about prosecuting.
˜... any incident which is perceived to be racist by the victim or any other person."
We accept this definition.
We define a religious incident as:
"Any incident which is believed to be motivated because of a person's religion or perceived religion, by the victim or any other person".
Both definitions help us to identify all racist or religious incidents on our case files to make sure we take the racist or religious element into account when we make decisions about prosecuting.
Just seen a Facebook article on a young 18yr old girl receiving a 12 month jail sentence for placing bacon strips on the door handles of a Mosque. Can't see for the life of me how this could result in a custodial sentence. Surely the actions of a immature young girl out for a laugh (you would hope).
Obviously she has found out to her detriment, the serious of her actions but, I find it difficult to separate the diffrence with this and the Poppy burning protests, other than where were all the arrests?
Obviously she has found out to her detriment, the serious of her actions but, I find it difficult to separate the diffrence with this and the Poppy burning protests, other than where were all the arrests?
TankRizzo said:
I feel sorry for Plod in these cases, I'm sure they would rather be doing better things than investigate 'he said something and hurt my feelings', but they are duty bound to do so if called.
They may be duty bound to act - but did this case really need to be taken to court?Wouldn't a police caution have been a more appropriate measure?
tony wright said:
Just seen a Facebook article on a young 18yr old girl receiving a 12 month jail sentence for placing bacon strips on the door handles of a Mosque. Can't see for the life of me how this could result in a custodial sentence. Surely the actions of a immature young girl out for a laugh (you would hope).
Obviously she has found out to her detriment, the serious of her actions but, I find it difficult to separate the diffrence with this and the Poppy burning protests, other than where were all the arrests?
Poppy burners were arrested. Look it up.Obviously she has found out to her detriment, the serious of her actions but, I find it difficult to separate the diffrence with this and the Poppy burning protests, other than where were all the arrests?
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