Identifying driver....

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SLCZ3

1,207 posts

205 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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silentbrown said:
I think you were driving. smile

There's only one services on the M1 between York and Rotherham: Wooley Edge.
It's well north of Rotherham, and only 36 miles from the centre of York.

Seems unlikely you would have swapped drivers that soon into a long journey - unless your start was much further away, or you'd been seriously held up by traffic. Next services at Woodall seem a more likely changeover point.

Google Maps!

Go and look at the Streetview images - anything look familiar, at either of them? (obviously if it's a regular route for you that wouldn't help...)

Back to the smartPhone thing : The phone doesn't have to be able to tell which side of the car you were sitting - it just has to be able to tell which services you stopped at to swap drivers. Androids can do this too.
There are two services between York and South of Rotherham if traveling on the M1 and if traveling A1M-M18-M1 from Yorkt there are two, if South of Rotherham is far enough to include Woodall.scratchchin

Mr Taxpayer

438 posts

120 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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agtlaw said:
Mr Taxpayer said:
WTF has an mePhone got to do with it?
This was explained earlier. In any event, see this:

http://metro.co.uk/2014/09/28/how-your-iphone-has-...
Nope sorry; it doesn't explain how it can tell who was driving. All it will do is confirm thet the phone was travelling at a certain speed in a certain direction at at certain time. It does not have the granularity to determine who was driving the car. It's not even good enough to go geo-caching with. An iPhone GPS has a stationary CEP of 5m at best with a clear view of several satellites; that's just about good enough to know which side of single carriageway road you're stood on. Inside a moving vehicle, you've got no chance of coming close to that.

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Mr Taxpayer said:
It's not even good enough to go geo-caching with.
Is that true!?
Damn - I just thought I was by far and away the worst geo-cacher of all time.
I can NEVER find that stuff - unless it has bright flashing lights on it or something.

agtlaw

6,702 posts

206 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Mr Taxpayer said:
Nope sorry; it doesn't explain how it can tell who was driving. All it will do is confirm thet the phone was travelling at a certain speed in a certain direction at at certain time. It does not have the granularity to determine who was driving the car. It's not even good enough to go geo-caching with. An iPhone GPS has a stationary CEP of 5m at best with a clear view of several satellites; that's just about good enough to know which side of single carriageway road you're stood on. Inside a moving vehicle, you've got no chance of coming close to that.
Again, this was explained earlier. Try reading the posts.

Bill

52,694 posts

255 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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AIUI GPS has a deliberate fudge in it to reduce accuracy to 10m (although I think this was reduced recently) for us plebs.

Taff107

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567 posts

149 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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walm said:
Thanks for doing the work - clearly it wasn't worth the bother for the OP.
It's the government's fault after all for his and his wife's incredibly poor memory and inability to do 3 mins of due diligence.
Incredible.
binned

Edited by Kinky on Friday 31st October 10:02

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Taff107 said:
binned
Ha! From the guy who can't remember three weeks ago.

Arrogance? From the guy who thinks every rear facing camera should be ripped out and replaced because HE (and pretty much ONLY he) has an incredibly poor memory... right.

Tell me again where I suggested a massive taxpayer funded investment that would only benefit me?
I mean - that would probably be considered quite arrogant... or at least mind-blowingly selfish.

Edited by Kinky on Friday 31st October 10:03

silentbrown

8,823 posts

116 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Mr Taxpayer said:
Nope sorry; it doesn't explain how it can tell who was driving.
It was initially possible that the OP and wife were in the separate cars.

But my point still holds: All GPS history needs to tell them is which services they swapped at. (BTW: Is iPhone GPS accuracy really any worse than any other smartphone/dedicated/on-board consumer GPS?)

Kinky

39,550 posts

269 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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If the OP is unable to do some very simple and easy due diligence nor post polite responses then perhaps this thread is done.
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