How to shut up a problem neighbour?
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Has the Law changed or are you still legally obliged to declare any disputes or problems with neighbours to prospective buyers when selling a house?
If the Law hasn't changed then even if you manage to get the neighbours sign removed, you still have to declare the dispute/problem to buyers - Otherwise it could cost you a lot of money when they discover that you failed to declare it!
If the Law hasn't changed then even if you manage to get the neighbours sign removed, you still have to declare the dispute/problem to buyers - Otherwise it could cost you a lot of money when they discover that you failed to declare it!
Hooli said:
Kill him, mince his corpse, make his corpse into sausages, freeze the sausages & hammer them into his lawn.
Jasandjules said:
surveyor said:
Eh? how is the surveyor meant to spot a freshly moved fence line? They will be asked to confirm the title plan is correct - and not always even that.
Depending on the survey, the fact the house has a roof and doors and windows is enough......My experience of boundary disputes is the only winner is the solicitors. If there is no loss of value or amenity, then tell him he can have it for the cost of the legals and relocating the boundary fence would be my suggestion.
PS - deed's aren't always as clear as you would like. My parents had a corner plot. A boundary was shown on their plan, that was different to the neighbours. Neighbour considered kicking off at one point, but shushed when it pointed out that if my parents had part of his land, he had part of theirs.
I would kidnap him, via a helpful third party, until the sale of the house has gone through. Then make out you've paid the ransom yourself, contact local media (if there are any left) and become a hero, living happily ever after. He will pay you back the ransom money too, enabling you to buy something nice, like a crossbow.
Seriously, why not just say (verbally only) he can have 'that' bit of land, and he can put the fence up at his own cost, within 1 week. Then if anything shows up on deeds etc in the future just blame him.
Plus, how is a dispute from 2000 (14 years ago) going to put people off? It is the solicitors job to look into into this, certainly the buyers solicitor, so perhaps err on the side of being a bit 'thick' when it suits you. Either the 'dispute' was resolved or it wasn't, but either way I would play the 'ignorant' game and not poke around too much. Let the solicitors worry about that, as it is their job.
Good luck too.
Seriously, why not just say (verbally only) he can have 'that' bit of land, and he can put the fence up at his own cost, within 1 week. Then if anything shows up on deeds etc in the future just blame him.
Plus, how is a dispute from 2000 (14 years ago) going to put people off? It is the solicitors job to look into into this, certainly the buyers solicitor, so perhaps err on the side of being a bit 'thick' when it suits you. Either the 'dispute' was resolved or it wasn't, but either way I would play the 'ignorant' game and not poke around too much. Let the solicitors worry about that, as it is their job.
Good luck too.
paintman said:
The solution is most likely in the decision made at the earlier resolution.
Get a suitable solicitor to chase it - may be able to trace it through the previous owners of your property.
Can we not assume by the fact that the guy isn't waving the resolution in the OP's face that the resolution was actually ruled in favour of the land belonging to the OP?Get a suitable solicitor to chase it - may be able to trace it through the previous owners of your property.
For an easy life, I'd be telling the guy to pay for the replacement of the fence and it's his - but, as stated earlier, plant Japanese Knotweed before it's moved
4rephill said:
Has the Law changed or are you still legally obliged to declare any disputes or problems with neighbours to prospective buyers when selling a house?
If the Law hasn't changed then even if you manage to get the neighbours sign removed, you still have to declare the dispute/problem to buyers - Otherwise it could cost you a lot of money when they discover that you failed to declare it!
If the Law hasn't changed then even if you manage to get the neighbours sign removed, you still have to declare the dispute/problem to buyers - Otherwise it could cost you a lot of money when they discover that you failed to declare it!
First two questions asked by our Estate Agent this year when we put our property on the market,
1] Are you legally allowed to sell the property?
2] Have you had any disputes with the neighbours?
Sudden thought (dangerous, smell of burning wood), my plot is the same shape as the disagreeable neighbours.
Area was developed in the late 50s, early 60s and the land was divided up then. My plot has a sloping right hand boundary and a shorter overall length as well. But garden is still plenty long enough and probably twice the area you'd get nowadays. The neighbour with whom I share the sloping boundary has a slightly greater slope on his right hand side.
Whether one agrees or not, if you look at all the boundaries of nearby properties, the reasons for doing so are clear enough. I think my solicitor drew my attention to the matter when I was buying the house but if you understand the bigger picture, individual cases are more easily understood.
If the OPs case is the same as my area, I think selling or giving away the disputed area is not a good idea. A letter from a solicitor setting out an explanation why the plot is the shape it is ought to be enough, although I suspect that would only work for rational human beings which the neighbour may not be...
Area was developed in the late 50s, early 60s and the land was divided up then. My plot has a sloping right hand boundary and a shorter overall length as well. But garden is still plenty long enough and probably twice the area you'd get nowadays. The neighbour with whom I share the sloping boundary has a slightly greater slope on his right hand side.
Whether one agrees or not, if you look at all the boundaries of nearby properties, the reasons for doing so are clear enough. I think my solicitor drew my attention to the matter when I was buying the house but if you understand the bigger picture, individual cases are more easily understood.
If the OPs case is the same as my area, I think selling or giving away the disputed area is not a good idea. A letter from a solicitor setting out an explanation why the plot is the shape it is ought to be enough, although I suspect that would only work for rational human beings which the neighbour may not be...
Mrs Muttleysnoop said:
4rephill said:
Has the Law changed or are you still legally obliged to declare any disputes or problems with neighbours to prospective buyers when selling a house?
If the Law hasn't changed then even if you manage to get the neighbours sign removed, you still have to declare the dispute/problem to buyers - Otherwise it could cost you a lot of money when they discover that you failed to declare it!
If the Law hasn't changed then even if you manage to get the neighbours sign removed, you still have to declare the dispute/problem to buyers - Otherwise it could cost you a lot of money when they discover that you failed to declare it!
First two questions asked by our Estate Agent this year when we put our property on the market,
1] Are you legally allowed to sell the property?
2] Have you had any disputes with the neighbours?
For example;
Could a 'dispute' mean something like next door parking across our drive? You've had a word and all is finally ok?
Or wheelie bins getting mixed up?
Or cat from next door sh*tting on your lawn?
Does the 'dispute' have to be with you and the present neighbour? What if the neighbour you had a 'dispute' with has moved?
Is it a dispute only when reported to the police or council?
What if it is with (the dispute) the people 4 doors down the road who play loud music at 3 in the morning?
I would find out this information before I do much else. Bit of a minefield and I can't see why the estate agent would ask you that in the first place.
surveyor said:
My experience of boundary disputes is the only winner is the solicitors. If there is no loss of value or amenity, then tell him he can have it for the cost of the legals and relocating the boundary fence would be my suggestion.
And this is likely to be the next sticking pointIf he is an arse then £5 says that when you agree to give him the land he will then expect you to foot the cost of having the deeds redrawn
What would that cost?
"Look mate, this was settled 20 years ago and you know it. If you continue to actively try to put my buyers off, I'm just going to rent it to the local council for them to put short term tenants in. I don't need the cash and its a rising market.
You want to buy the land, make a reasonable offer add the legal costs and the cost of moving the fence & I'll consider it."
You want to buy the land, make a reasonable offer add the legal costs and the cost of moving the fence & I'll consider it."
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