Speeding Question

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tony wright

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1,004 posts

250 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Have only returned to the UK recently after living abroad for the last twenty years and after some clarification. I also apologise in advance if it's been done to death already.

I have received an S172, requesting the details of the driver for a speeding offence (definitely me). The speed was 37 in a 30 zone. My only excuse was I thought it was 40, as there were only a few houses and they were well back from the road but, guilty as charged. I still have a clean driving licence after 37 years, so though I may be offered the speed awareness course but, my Brother in law reckons it's only offered if your within 10% of the limit. I now assume I'll get a £100 fine and 3 points but, if he's wrong how much is it to attend the SAC and is it worth writing a request for one?

SS2.

14,462 posts

238 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Awareness Courses are generally offered for speeds of up to [limit +10% +9mph}, so you're well within that.

Costs vary from area to area but probably average out around the £85-£95 mark.

The absence of any speed limit repeater signs combined with the presence of a system of street lamps would tend to indicate a 30mph limit.

tony wright

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250 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Thanks for that , certainly makes me feel better just keep my fingers crossed now. Checked the road again today and yes it's sign posted 30, just in cloud Cuckoo land at the timefrown

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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I had a course for 40 in a 30 earlier this year, so you're well within.

agtlaw

6,712 posts

206 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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sumo69

2,164 posts

220 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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You will DEFINITELY be offered a Speed Awareness Course - I did one last month for 38 in a 30.

Its also cheaper than taking the points now as the fine is £100 and a course is £85 to £90ish.

David

tony wright

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250 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Great news NIP declaring myself as the driver has been sent off. Not sure how long it takes for the fine or opportunity to attend the SAC takes.

Digby

8,237 posts

246 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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There's no room on our roads any longer for being human.Pay up, please!

zarjaz1991

3,480 posts

123 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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It isn't "pay up please" it's actually "pay up or go to prison".

EU_Foreigner

2,833 posts

226 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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From the list above, is 20 now enforceable then?

Aretnap

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151 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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EU_Foreigner said:
From the list above, is 20 now enforceable then?
20 limits have always been enforceable. The amount of effort police put into actually enforcing them varies from area to area.

Until recently ACPO guidelines didn't allow speed awareness courses in 20 limits because if yu speed in a 20 limit you're obviously a baby killing bd with total disregard for the law, and stringing you up by your balls is the only language you'll understand. (I'm paraphrasing slightly, but that seemed to be the gist of it) That seems to be what's changed.

Sump

5,484 posts

167 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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I genuinely don't find it even possible to do 20 mph. You feel like a right numpty.

EU_Foreigner

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226 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Ok, somehow I thought that the cameras were not calibrated for that low a speed (the fixed ones).

Greendubber

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203 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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sumo69 said:
You will DEFINITELY be offered a Speed Awareness Course - I did one last month for 38 in a 30.

Its also cheaper than taking the points now as the fine is £100 and a course is £85 to £90ish.

David
Not all forces operate the speed awareness courses so it's not definite.

Aretnap

1,663 posts

151 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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EU_Foreigner said:
Ok, somehow I thought that the cameras were not calibrated for that low a speed (the fixed ones).
You're probably thinking of Gatsos, which are only type approved for use in speed limits of 30mph or above. They're the exception though - AFAIK no other device has a similar restriction.

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

245 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Sump said:
I genuinely don't find it even possible to do 20 mph. You feel like a right numpty.
Honestly ? You find it impossible to drive at 20mph ?

Sump

5,484 posts

167 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Corpulent Tosser said:
Sump said:
I genuinely don't find it even possible to do 20 mph. You feel like a right numpty.
Honestly ? You find it impossible to drive at 20mph ?
Yes, it just seems eerily slow.

Digby

8,237 posts

246 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Sump said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
Sump said:
I genuinely don't find it even possible to do 20 mph. You feel like a right numpty.
Honestly ? You find it impossible to drive at 20mph ?
Yes, it just seems eerily slow.
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I have to use dozens of 20 mph zones and for the reasons you state, I assume that's why most are ignored.

Have followed the police several times through such zones and so far, they have ignored the limits, too.

tony wright

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250 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Ended up on the same road last night with a Police car in front of myself but, behind another vehicle. Lead car turned off and police car then sped up and disappeared within seconds. I was sat at 30 (funny old thing) as we still had a couple of hundred yards of the 30 limit left. He must of pushed it to 40+furious Obviously, he may have received a call but, no siren or lights. Maybe I'll catch up with him on the SAC if I manage to get onelaugh

SK425

1,034 posts

149 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Sump said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
Sump said:
I genuinely don't find it even possible to do 20 mph. You feel like a right numpty.
Honestly ? You find it impossible to drive at 20mph ?
Yes, it just seems eerily slow.
Is there anything special about 20s? There are times in 30s, 40s and probably even more in 50s, 60s and 70s where sticking to the limit seems, if not eerily, then painfully slow.