Plead Guilty by Post/At Court... What to put?

Plead Guilty by Post/At Court... What to put?

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jellypig

112 posts

147 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Appears a bit harsh to me - as in disproportionate penalty.

Were expecting the arrival of a "learnermobile" for my eldest daughter shortly, and several people have pointed us at a local shopping centre carpark to learn the "mechanics" of driving before she hits the streets.
I confess I'd wondered if it was "legal" , I guess I know now.


pinchmeimdreamin

9,948 posts

218 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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jellypig said:
Appears a bit harsh to me - as in disproportionate penalty.

Were expecting the arrival of a "learnermobile" for my eldest daughter shortly, and several people have pointed us at a local shopping centre carpark to learn the "mechanics" of driving before she hits the streets.
I confess I'd wondered if it was "legal" , I guess I know now.
As long as she is insured on the car it wont be a problem.

jellypig

112 posts

147 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
As long as she is insured on the car it wont be a problem.
What had been suggested to me was to collect the car pre-17th birthday, get some practice in "off road" - which I agree is laudible/sensible, but in that context, it'd only be insured for parents to drive, not the learner - and hence "wrong" as per the OP.

But, am not really bothered if we leave collection until after/day of, and collect then, and ofcourse then yes, she will be insured. It'd still be sensible to practice the "mechanics" off-line then too but she will by then ofcourse be "legal" to drive on the road too.


StottyEvo

Original Poster:

6,860 posts

163 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Could anyone clarify what "Non endorsable" means with regards to my second charge. If it means that it won't go on my licence I'm tempted to plead guilty simply to avoid potentially antagonising the judge, if its simply a fine I'm not too bothered!

Carnage

886 posts

232 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Non-endorsable - no points.

StottyEvo

Original Poster:

6,860 posts

163 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Carnage said:
Non-endorsable - no points.
Cool, so I won't get a conviction code for it. Insurance is my worry...

Carnage

886 posts

232 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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You'd still have to declare it to your insurance, I would have thought.

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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StottyEvo said:
Cool, so I won't get a conviction code for it. Insurance is my worry...
Your driving without insurance will be the big item driving up your premium anyway.

IN12 (?), 6-8 points, up to £5k fine?

agtlaw

6,712 posts

206 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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StottyEvo said:
Could anyone clarify what "Non endorsable" means with regards to my second charge. If it means that it won't go on my licence I'm tempted to plead guilty simply to avoid potentially antagonising the judge, if its simply a fine I'm not too bothered!
A Tesco car park is not a road. You should plead not guilty. Unlikely to be a judge in the Magistrates' Court. If you plead not guilty then this offence is unlikely to be proceeded with - especially if you've pleaded guilty to the insurance offence.


StottyEvo

Original Poster:

6,860 posts

163 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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agtlaw said:
StottyEvo said:
Could anyone clarify what "Non endorsable" means with regards to my second charge. If it means that it won't go on my licence I'm tempted to plead guilty simply to avoid potentially antagonising the judge, if its simply a fine I'm not too bothered!
A Tesco car park is not a road. You should plead not guilty. Unlikely to be a judge in the Magistrates' Court. If you plead not guilty then this offence is unlikely to be proceeded with - especially if you've pleaded guilty to the insurance offence.
Great thanks. I'll do just that.

StottyEvo

Original Poster:

6,860 posts

163 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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I can't find my licence, card nor counterpart. Will my licence be suspended because of this?

johnao

669 posts

243 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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AngryPartsBloke said:
LocoCoco said:
AngryPartsBloke said:
11:30 at night, in an empty car park, teaching someoen to drive. Really?


I hope you don't get knocked down off your high horse otherwise I don't know what you'd do having to walk around like the rest of us.

"uninsured criminally minded drivers" Pleb
The poster you quoted was being sarcastic.
Attempting sarcasm in written conversation?

That's even worse!
The poster you quoted was being ironic. Irony is a perfectly valid form of literary expression. However, it's a literary form that's not usually fully understood by our friends in North America.confused


Edited by johnao on Friday 21st November 15:58

StottyEvo

Original Poster:

6,860 posts

163 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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If anybody is interested I was awarded 8 points and a £360 fine.

8 points is the maximum for the offence laugh

shambolic

2,146 posts

167 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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That's pish!!

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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StottyEvo said:
If anybody is interested I was awarded 8 points and a £360 fine.

8 points is the maximum for the offence laugh
Seems harsh.

What was the impact on your insurance?

StottyEvo

Original Poster:

6,860 posts

163 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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whoami said:
StottyEvo said:
If anybody is interested I was awarded 8 points and a £360 fine.

8 points is the maximum for the offence laugh
Seems harsh.

What was the impact on your insurance?
I'm 24 with an Evo so you can guess laugh My renewal is in March, I may have to sell it if the price goes up too much (bearing in mind I'm paid £250/week)

I best enjoy is while I can thumbup

Patch888

701 posts

128 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Seems harsh, enjoy the evo mate.

agtlaw

6,712 posts

206 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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StottyEvo said:
If anybody is interested I was awarded 8 points and a £360 fine.

8 points is the maximum for the offence laugh
Appeal the sentence if you think it's too harsh. Practically, there's not much difference between 6 and 8 points - two fixed penalties away from a totting up ban.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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StottyEvo said:
If anybody is interested I was awarded 8 points and a £360 fine.

8 points is the maximum for the offence laugh
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Unbelievable. frown

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

245 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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That is pretty tough.
Though I was banned for 6 months for allowing someone (who I thought was insured) ride my motorbike, that was a long time ago.

What did your GF get ?