Police TV wannabe stars

[Elroy Blue]

HertsBiker said:

Who are you talking about? Original questions were good: I've often wondered about the hypocracy of plod going way faster than a MOP in order to pull them up where no one else is allowed to stop!

A bit like British Airways pilots not being able to drop bombs when RAF pilots can. Real bugger that

[RWD cossie wil]

Elroy Blue said:

HertsBiker said:

Who are you talking about? Original questions were good: I've often wondered about the hypocracy of plod going way faster than a MOP in order to pull them up where no one else is allowed to stop!

A bit like British Airways pilots not being able to drop bombs when RAF pilots can. Real bugger that

Just an interested question, once it's established that the car you have pulled will stop, wouldn't it be better for everyone to go to the next junction or services IF it is a reasonable distance away?

[masermartin]

RWD cossie wil said:

Just an interested question, once it's established that the car you have pulled will stop, wouldn't it be better for everyone to go to the next junction or services IF it is a reasonable distance away?

How do you do that? Get him to sign an affidavit in triplicate through the open window? Perhaps you could invite him to a Facebook event at "Hard shoulder, M4 Westbound" so he can accept it on his smart phone whilst driving ...

Crumbs, this really is good this thread

[RWD cossie wil]

masermartin said:

RWD cossie wil said:

Just an interested question, once it's established that the car you have pulled will stop, wouldn't it be better for everyone to go to the next junction or services IF it is a reasonable distance away?

How do you do that? Get him to sign an affidavit in triplicate through the open window? Perhaps you could invite him to a Facebook event at "Hard shoulder, M4 Westbound" so he can accept it on his smart phone whilst driving ...

Crumbs, this really is good this thread

Or, perhaps the normal "come & have a seat in the back of my car" could be replaced with "ok, carry on to the next junction/ services then pull over" ? The 5/10 mins usually spent exposed to danger would be significantly reduced. But it's far more useful trying to look clever & make stupid comments isn't it

[RWD cossie wil]

masermartin said:

RWD cossie wil said:

Just an interested question, once it's established that the car you have pulled will stop, wouldn't it be better for everyone to go to the next junction or services IF it is a reasonable distance away?

How do you do that? Get him to sign an affidavit in triplicate through the open window? Perhaps you could invite him to a Facebook event at "Hard shoulder, M4 Westbound" so he can accept it on his smart phone whilst driving ...

Crumbs, this really is good this thread

Or, perhaps the normal "come & have a seat in the back of my car" could be replaced with "ok, carry on to the next junction/ services then pull over" ? The 5/10 mins usually spent exposed to danger would be significantly reduced. But it's far more useful trying to look clever & make stupid comments isn't it

[Mk3Spitfire]

RWD cossie wil said:

Or, perhaps the normal "come & have a seat in the back of my car" could be replaced with "ok, carry on to the next junction/ services then pull over" ? The 5/10 mins usually spent exposed to danger would be significantly reduced. But it's far more useful trying to look clever & throw insults isn't it

Well sometimes that might work, but sometimes you may be able to add a bit on to your sentence...
"ok, carry on to the next junction/ services then pull over, it'll give you enough time to chuck/swallow your drugs or change your mind about stopping and make off and crash, resulting in a full PSD investigation and possibly losing my job"!
It depends on the person you are stopping and the location and a whole load of other things.

[RWD cossie wil]

Mk3Spitfire said:

RWD cossie wil said:

Or, perhaps the normal "come & have a seat in the back of my car" could be replaced with "ok, carry on to the next junction/ services then pull over" ? The 5/10 mins usually spent exposed to danger would be significantly reduced. But it's far more useful trying to look clever & throw insults isn't it

Well sometimes that might work, but sometimes you may be able to add a bit on to your sentence...
"ok, carry on to the next junction/ services then pull over, it'll give you enough time to chuck/swallow your drugs or change your mind about stopping and make off and crash, resulting in a full PSD investigation and possibly losing my job"!
It depends on the person you are stopping and the location and a whole load of other things.

Again, obviously where the situation allows, in your years on the force I'm sure you have worked out when such a request would be sensible? I'm simply speaking from the point of view that surely you & your colleagues & the MOPs involved in the hard shoulder stop want to be in a position of danger for as short a time as possible? My dad was a police contract manager for the AA for years with the CMPG & other areas across the UK, and sadly he delt with a number of fatalities of Officers, recovery drivers & MOPs.... Why is everyone so defensive in SP&L? Surely returning home at the end of a shift is preferable to being splattered up the hard shoulder, and anything you can do to increase those odds are a good thing?

[Bigends]

RWD cossie wil said:

Mk3Spitfire said:

RWD cossie wil said:

Or, perhaps the normal "come & have a seat in the back of my car" could be replaced with "ok, carry on to the next junction/ services then pull over" ? The 5/10 mins usually spent exposed to danger would be significantly reduced. But it's far more useful trying to look clever & throw insults isn't it

Well sometimes that might work, but sometimes you may be able to add a bit on to your sentence...
"ok, carry on to the next junction/ services then pull over, it'll give you enough time to chuck/swallow your drugs or change your mind about stopping and make off and crash, resulting in a full PSD investigation and possibly losing my job"!
It depends on the person you are stopping and the location and a whole load of other things.

Again, obviously where the situation allows, in your years on the force I'm sure you have worked out when such a request would be sensible? I'm simply speaking from the point of view that surely you & your colleagues & the MOPs involved in the hard shoulder stop want to be in a position of danger for as short a time as possible? My dad was a police contract manager for the AA for years with the CMPG & other areas across the UK, and sadly he delt with a number of fatalities of Officers, recovery drivers & MOPs.... Why is everyone so defensive in SP&L? Surely returning home at the end of a shift is preferable to being splattered up the hard shoulder, and anything you can do to increase those odds are a good thing?

Surely the safest spot is out of the car on the other side of the barrier - one of the crew can stay in the car for checks

[CAFEDEAD]

ruff'n'smov said:

supermono said:

Has anyone done a FoI request yet to discover how many police hours are misused in make up and in front of the camera to crow about how fun it was to do 130mph and catch someone to tell them driving at 90mph is dangerous? And how ironically they did this on the hard shoulder with sleeping truckers whipping past a foot away?

Obviously this should be done in their own time, but is it...?

They bit. Well done

Just superb work.

[FurryExocet]

I was on TV at the beginning of the year, my interview after all the action was done at the custody bench, took 5 minutes whilst they were dealing with the prisoner, no makeup involved and no royalties for each time it's shown on TV.

[wildcat45]

One of them came to my house once when my mobioe was nicked.

He'd been in a shout chasing a burglar across gardens. He seemed a bit embarrased by it all to be honest.

He came across as a good cop on the telly and in person.

These shows do portray the police in a day to day basis. They break down some of the mystery about the job and show the public some of the ste they have to deal with.

Occasionally it shows them in a not too good light.

It shows them to be human. And that's no bad thing.

[RWD cossie wil]

wildcat45 said:

One of them came to my house once when my mobioe was nicked.

He'd been in a shout chasing a burglar across gardens. He seemed a bit embarrased by it all to be honest.

He came across as a good cop on the telly and in person.

These shows do portray the police in a day to day basis. They break down some of the mystery about the job and show the public some of the ste they have to deal with.

Occasionally it shows them in a not too good light.

It shows them to be human. And that's no bad thing.

Must get pretty depressing to constantly nick the same scumbags time & again, spend hours building a case, only to see them get a pathetic sentance & minimal fine, and released back into the wild for them to do it all over again!

[mybrainhurts]

Ah, yes, these TV programmes.

Brings into sharp focus the ludicrous pedantry of bagging drivers for eating KitKats while plod on TV blasts after another car through a housing estate in an unmarked Impreza, one hand on his radio, the other changing gear.

[wildcat45]

RWD cossie wil said:

Must get pretty depressing to constantly nick the same scumbags time & again, spend hours building a case, only to see them get a pathetic sentance & minimal fine, and released back into the wild for them to do it all over again!

Yes it must. Must also be a good feeling when one gets sent away for a long stretch.

[Collectingbrass]

mybrainhurts said:

Ah, yes, these TV programmes.

Brings into sharp focus the ludicrous pedantry of bagging drivers for eating KitKats while plod on TV blasts after another car through a housing estate in an unmarked Impreza, one hand on his radio, the other changing gear.

1. You don't know the hazard the kit kat driver was creating as a result of their actions, nor the reason why the offender was the cause of a blue light pursuit. neither will have been done lightly though.
2. Even so, I for one am truely thankful that this is all we have got to berate our polcie service for this morning.

[mybrainhurts]

Collectingbrass said:

mybrainhurts said:

Ah, yes, these TV programmes.

Brings into sharp focus the ludicrous pedantry of bagging drivers for eating KitKats while plod on TV blasts after another car through a housing estate in an unmarked Impreza, one hand on his radio, the other changing gear.

1. You don't know the hazard the kit kat driver was creating as a result of their actions, .

True, sitting at a red light with the handbrake on is fraught with danger.

[masermartin]

RWD cossie wil said:

Or, perhaps the normal "come & have a seat in the back of my car" could be replaced with "ok, carry on to the next junction/ services then pull over" ? The 5/10 mins usually spent exposed to danger would be significantly reduced. But it's far more useful trying to look clever & make stupid comments isn't it

I'm still trying to work out how you communicate that with someone who quite possibly doesn't want to stop (or who indicates that they are quite willing to stop, and then doesn't). You're trying to conduct a conversation with someone driving on a motorway which forces them to take their attention away from the road.

I honestly don't understand why you have a bee in your bonnet about this Clearly the issue is with people not paying attention and driving into the back of a blue and red Christmas Tree, not with the precise part of the hard shoulder/side of road that the police choose to do the stop on.

[masermartin]

Collectingbrass said:

2. Even so, I for one am truely thankful that this is all we have got to berate our polcie service for this morning.

This.

[mybrainhurts]

masermartin said:

Collectingbrass said:

2. Even so, I for one am truely thankful that this is all we have got to berate our polcie service for this morning.

This.

You get on well with your polcies, then? There's nowt like a red hot polcie when you're a bit bored...

[RWD cossie wil]

masermartin said:

RWD cossie wil said:

Or, perhaps the normal "come & have a seat in the back of my car" could be replaced with "ok, carry on to the next junction/ services then pull over" ? The 5/10 mins usually spent exposed to danger would be significantly reduced. But it's far more useful trying to look clever & make stupid comments isn't it

I'm still trying to work out how you communicate that with someone who quite possibly doesn't want to stop (or who indicates that they are quite willing to stop, and then doesn't). You're trying to conduct a conversation with someone driving on a motorway which forces them to take their attention away from the road.

I honestly don't understand why you have a bee in your bonnet about this Clearly the issue is with people not paying attention and driving into the back of a blue and red Christmas Tree, not with the precise part of the hard shoulder/side of road that the police choose to do the stop on.

Is it really that hard to understand or are you just a bit simple? What's hard about understanding that once a car is stopped, and the officer is happy having spoken to that driver after approaching the car as they normally do, then gets them to carry on to the next safe point, ie junction, services etc to have a chat/inspect car/issue ticket etc?