Police TV wannabe stars

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RWD cossie wil said:

masermartin said:

RWD cossie wil said:

Or, perhaps the normal "come & have a seat in the back of my car" could be replaced with "ok, carry on to the next junction/ services then pull over" ? The 5/10 mins usually spent exposed to danger would be significantly reduced. But it's far more useful trying to look clever & make stupid comments isn't it

I'm still trying to work out how you communicate that with someone who quite possibly doesn't want to stop (or who indicates that they are quite willing to stop, and then doesn't). You're trying to conduct a conversation with someone driving on a motorway which forces them to take their attention away from the road.

I honestly don't understand why you have a bee in your bonnet about this Clearly the issue is with people not paying attention and driving into the back of a blue and red Christmas Tree, not with the precise part of the hard shoulder/side of road that the police choose to do the stop on.

Is it really that hard to understand or are you just a bit simple? What's hard about understanding that once a car is stopped, and the officer is happy having spoken to that driver after approaching the car as they normally do, then gets them to carry on to the next safe point, ie junction, services etc to have a chat/inspect car/issue ticket etc?

ACPO SAYS

Prior to stopping a vehicle the necessity of this action must be considered taking into account
the circumstances, particularly traffic volume and the weather. Where possible and practicable,
vehicles should be taken off the motorway and stopped at the next junction or service area.

[masermartin]

RWD cossie wil said:

Is it really that hard to understand or are you just a bit simple? What's hard about understanding that once a car is stopped, and the officer is happy having spoken to that driver after approaching the car as they normally do,

OK so this was the bit that you were assuming everyone would infer. Maybe everyone else did, and only I'm the slow one here, frankly I don't care. Anyway...

RWD cossie wil said:

then gets them to carry on to the next safe point, ie junction, services etc to have a chat/inspect car/issue ticket etc?

To be clear on what you're actually saying, you want it to go like this:

1. Stop car on M-way or at side of the road etc., as normal
2. Get out and walk to car.
3. Speak to driver, and ensure "officer is happy", I presume you mean happy that the driver isn't going to bugger off, this is very hard to judge FYI.
4. Tell driver to go further down the road and pull off at safe location X.
5. Get back in the cars.
6. Assume driver has not buggered off, see 3.
7. Drive to location X, which could be 16 miles down the road.
8. Indicate to driver where you want them to pull up.
9. Conduct conversation.
10. Send driver on their way.

Instead of having the chat at point 3 and sending them on their way?

Don't get me wrong, I totally see the merit in not being exposed to danger unnecessarily. However, I also understand the concept of only having so many working hours in a day, and such other concepts as not living in parts of the country where junctions are every mile, and such concepts as the next couple of junctions being exits straight onto other trunk routes or motorways, thus diverting people miles away from where they could be going.

I repeat; at the end of the day, the danger you're talking about comes from the perceived (and quite possibly real) inability of some other uninvolved drivers to avoid driving into the back of a strobing red and blue christmas tree. Surely that is the issue, not where the police decide to pull someone? As long as they've stopped the car within reason (i.e. in the hard shoulder, not obstructing the main road) I honestly fail to see why it's the police's obligation to think on behalf of every moron out there.

[Bigends]

masermartin said:

RWD cossie wil said:

Is it really that hard to understand or are you just a bit simple? What's hard about understanding that once a car is stopped, and the officer is happy having spoken to that driver after approaching the car as they normally do,

OK so this was the bit that you were assuming everyone would infer. Maybe everyone else did, and only I'm the slow one here, frankly I don't care. Anyway...

RWD cossie wil said:

then gets them to carry on to the next safe point, ie junction, services etc to have a chat/inspect car/issue ticket etc?

To be clear on what you're actually saying, you want it to go like this:

1. Stop car on M-way or at side of the road etc., as normal
2. Get out and walk to car.
3. Speak to driver, and ensure "officer is happy", I presume you mean happy that the driver isn't going to bugger off, this is very hard to judge FYI.
4. Tell driver to go further down the road and pull off at safe location X.
5. Get back in the cars.
6. Assume driver has not buggered off, see 3.
7. Drive to location X, which could be 16 miles down the road.
8. Indicate to driver where you want them to pull up.
9. Conduct conversation.
10. Send driver on their way.

Instead of having the chat at point 3 and sending them on their way?

Don't get me wrong, I totally see the merit in not being exposed to danger unnecessarily. However, I also understand the concept of only having so many working hours in a day, and such other concepts as not living in parts of the country where junctions are every mile, and such concepts as the next couple of junctions being exits straight onto other trunk routes or motorways, thus diverting people miles away from where they could be going.

I repeat; at the end of the day, the danger you're talking about comes from the perceived (and quite possibly real) inability of some other uninvolved drivers to avoid driving into the back of a strobing red and blue christmas tree. Surely that is the issue, not where the police decide to pull someone? As long as they've stopped the car within reason (i.e. in the hard shoulder, not obstructing the main road) I honestly fail to see why it's the police's obligation to think on behalf of every moron out there.

Its the Cops obligation as they'll have someone locked in the back of their car in what's admittedly a hazardous location whilst they sort out whatever they've stopped them for as well as putting whoevers left in the drivers car (wife, kids etc) in danger for the duration of the stop.

[masermartin]

I realise that this is the internet, but I'm going to do the equivalent of the "yes, dear" and agree to disagree with you on this, if that's OK with you? There are many more important things to worry about in the world than this.

[mybrainhurts]

No there aren't...