Dangerous dog, advice needed please
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Dogs will join in on an attack of this nature though, so the BM was acting quite naturally in "helping" the lab. But the bottom line is that the lab is the dangerous dog in this situation.
But as to what to do, at least neither dog has got through any fences into your or the other neighbour's garden.. But I'd go and have a word with the person who lost their dog and see what they are looking to do about it, if anything.
But as to what to do, at least neither dog has got through any fences into your or the other neighbour's garden.. But I'd go and have a word with the person who lost their dog and see what they are looking to do about it, if anything.
9mm said:
Why not talk to the Police first and get their view on things? I think you need to be clear about what you are trying to achieve before you do anything substantive. I understand your concerns but I'm less clear about what precisely you want to achieve. You say you don't want a dog destroyed but you are concerned about your dog's and daughter's safety, so what needs to happen to alleviate that concern? Once you get specific then I think you'll get suggestions about the best way of achieving what you want.
What I do know is I want my daughter and dog to be able to go in and enjoy our own garden in relative safety, I do what I can to ensure that happens, I don't know what to do, hence the request for advice, legal or otherwise. What I don't know is how I can achieve this considering what I've already posted.
Up until now it hasn't worried me, but after the dog attack last week, which would suggest that these dogs are aggressive, I now have concerns. I've mulled it over in my head for a day or two, and now I'm posting here.
I'm grateful for all your thoughts.
Edited by Amused2death on Monday 17th November 19:05
Amused2death said:
See third paragraph of my post 17-12.
Ok they are trying. I would ask the owner of the dogs to put another line of fencing inside their boundary to reinforce the fences for starters. I would also tell them that you are sorry but if their dog gets into your garden you will do something about it and if it so much as looks at you funny you will call the police to have it destroyed. Now, you might not do that, BUT if they think you will, they might do something about their dogs.
I'd also make it clear you have dogs and you like dogs, you feel absolutely forced into this situation because you are worried about your child and pets.
Jasandjules said:
Ok they are trying. I would ask the owner of the dogs to put another line of fencing inside their boundary to reinforce the fences for starters.
I would also tell them that you are sorry but if their dog gets into your garden you will do something about it and if it so much as looks at you funny you will call the police to have it destroyed. Now, you might not do that, BUT if they think you will, they might do something about their dogs.
I'd also make it clear you have dogs and you like dogs, you feel absolutely forced into this situation because you are worried about your child and pets.
I know it's an owner issue rather than a dog one, I am genuinely appreciative of your thoughts. Thank you.I would also tell them that you are sorry but if their dog gets into your garden you will do something about it and if it so much as looks at you funny you will call the police to have it destroyed. Now, you might not do that, BUT if they think you will, they might do something about their dogs.
I'd also make it clear you have dogs and you like dogs, you feel absolutely forced into this situation because you are worried about your child and pets.
7mike said:
As un-PH as it is to suggest someone in the public sector may be of use but; have you considered discussing this with your local dog warden. They may even be more knowledgeable about relevant legislation than a bunch of blokes on the internet 
I think a speculative phone call might be in order tomorrow, your idea seems like a good place to start, thanks.Slightly of topic. A neigbours agressive dog has twice got out, and had a go at my dog. On the second occasion, the owners reply to me suggesting he keeps it under comtrol was to threaten to beat me up. I now carry a very powerful water pistol filled with an obnoxious substance. Dog or owner is a fair target.
Amused2death said:
9mm said:
Why not talk to the Police first and get their view on things? I think you need to be clear about what you are trying to achieve before you do anything substantive. I understand your concerns but I'm less clear about what precisely you want to achieve. You say you don't want a dog destroyed but you are concerned about your dog's and daughter's safety, so what needs to happen to alleviate that concern? Once you get specific then I think you'll get suggestions about the best way of achieving what you want.
What I do know is I want my daughter and dog to be able to go in and enjoy our own garden in relative safety, I do what I can to ensure that happens, I don't know what to do, hence the request for advice, legal or otherwise. What I don't know is how I can achieve this considering what I've already posted.
Up until now it hasn't worried me, but after the dog attack last week, which would suggest that these dogs are aggressive, I now have concerns. I've mulled it over in my head for a day or two, and now I'm posting here.
I'm grateful for all your thoughts.
Edited by Amused2death on Monday 17th November 19:05
I'd still contact Police and the local dog warden and air your concerns regardless as to whether your neighbour speaks with them
robinessex said:
Slightly of topic. A neigbours agressive dog has twice got out, and had a go at my dog. On the second occasion, the owners reply to me suggesting he keeps it under comtrol was to threaten to beat me up. I now carry a very powerful water pistol filled with an obnoxious substance. Dog or owner is a fair target.
What is the substance?Mk3Spitfire said:
robinessex said:
Slightly of topic. A neigbours agressive dog has twice got out, and had a go at my dog. On the second occasion, the owners reply to me suggesting he keeps it under comtrol was to threaten to beat me up. I now carry a very powerful water pistol filled with an obnoxious substance. Dog or owner is a fair target.
What is the substance?Does it look like any in the link below:
http://www.worcsregservices.gov.uk/animal-health--...
If so report to police ASAP.
TBH it sounds like a clueless owner that has created a pair of dangerous animals. All medium and large dogs are potentially dangerous if the owner is clueless on how to raise a dog correctly. Once engrained it'll take a professional to retrain the animal, which if the owner has allowed their dogs to get to that point is probably likely to resist.
Difficult situation to be in but you must act. A dog that will kill another will not distinguish between that and a child.
http://www.worcsregservices.gov.uk/animal-health--...
If so report to police ASAP.
TBH it sounds like a clueless owner that has created a pair of dangerous animals. All medium and large dogs are potentially dangerous if the owner is clueless on how to raise a dog correctly. Once engrained it'll take a professional to retrain the animal, which if the owner has allowed their dogs to get to that point is probably likely to resist.
Difficult situation to be in but you must act. A dog that will kill another will not distinguish between that and a child.
robinessex said:
Mk3Spitfire said:
robinessex said:
Slightly of topic. A neigbours agressive dog has twice got out, and had a go at my dog. On the second occasion, the owners reply to me suggesting he keeps it under comtrol was to threaten to beat me up. I now carry a very powerful water pistol filled with an obnoxious substance. Dog or owner is a fair target.
What is the substance?Will be speaking again tomorrow to the owner who's dog died, we get on well, and he's fully aware it's an owner that is at fault. If he's in agreement I'll be calling the local dog warden in the first instance and see where, if anywhere, that takes us.
Thanks for all your opinions and advice, I'm grateful, and I'll update accordingly.
Thanks for all your opinions and advice, I'm grateful, and I'll update accordingly.
Might not apply to your case but if you say the dogs are good with people they know how about slowly getting to know them?
My dog is generally wary and scared of most new things/ people and a blunt introduction normally just ends in lots of barking.
When we have wanted to introduce new people to her (friends, family etc) we take her out for a walk with them and let the dog figure them out and see they are no threat, play a bit off ball with her, few treats.
After a couple of walks she is fine with them. Happy to go and cuddle on the sofa, sleep on their feet etc.
But as I said she is a dog that appears a bit grumpy due to fear so it's just the reassurance she needs I don't know if this would work with your neighbours dogs if they are genuinely outwardly aggressive.
My dog is generally wary and scared of most new things/ people and a blunt introduction normally just ends in lots of barking.
When we have wanted to introduce new people to her (friends, family etc) we take her out for a walk with them and let the dog figure them out and see they are no threat, play a bit off ball with her, few treats.
After a couple of walks she is fine with them. Happy to go and cuddle on the sofa, sleep on their feet etc.
But as I said she is a dog that appears a bit grumpy due to fear so it's just the reassurance she needs I don't know if this would work with your neighbours dogs if they are genuinely outwardly aggressive.
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