"Residents only" parking sign
Discussion
We live in the same road as our ever-expanding village school and it doesn't cause us a problem.
Sure, it's mayhem for a few mins before 9AM and similar between about 3.10 and 3.40PM (the infants and juniors have different finishing times and parents hang around chatting) but what normal working people are coming and going at that time?
One of my neighbours got in his car in his drive and as he did so a brand new Volvo XC60 pulled up behind him, on the other side of the road. He backed out at an unwise speed smack into the side of it. They park a bit further away now!
Sure, it's mayhem for a few mins before 9AM and similar between about 3.10 and 3.40PM (the infants and juniors have different finishing times and parents hang around chatting) but what normal working people are coming and going at that time?
One of my neighbours got in his car in his drive and as he did so a brand new Volvo XC60 pulled up behind him, on the other side of the road. He backed out at an unwise speed smack into the side of it. They park a bit further away now!
Dodsy said:
I particulary like the mums who stop on the yellow zig zags outside the school to drop their kids off. I've challenged a few and been told to ' F*** off, this is a drop off zone'. Um no its not you daft bints. And the ones who pull up in the coach stop outside school then leave the car parked there while they have a nice chat with their friends, forcing the school coaches to stop in the middle of the road to unload the kids.
We've had PCSOs around before now but they seem to also think all of the above is fine but then berated my Mrs for parking down a side road (through road not a cul de sac and no yellow lines) out of everyones way because ' the chap who lives in this house doesnt like cars stopping outside his house'.
Not far from where I used to live there are two schools (primary and secondary) on a single site. The road is on a bus route (double deckers), the zig-zags are on a bend outside the main gate, and there are also yellow lines extending for about fifty yards either side of the bend. The selfish mums in their Chelsea tractors were causing utter chaos and one day the inevitable happened. Two buses going in opposite directions were unable to pass each other and the result was complete gridlock for over 30 minutes. I was on one of the buses and by the time everything got sorted out and we were on the move again I ended up getting to work nearly an hour late. The MD wasn't happy as he had had to begin a meeting with one of our most valued customers without me.We've had PCSOs around before now but they seem to also think all of the above is fine but then berated my Mrs for parking down a side road (through road not a cul de sac and no yellow lines) out of everyones way because ' the chap who lives in this house doesnt like cars stopping outside his house'.
The police turned up in force and booked all the drivers who were breaching any parking restrictions in the vicinity of the school (this was in the days before DPE). One 'lady' who made the mistake of getting on her high horse ended up being arrested for obstructing a constable. IIRC she got quite a stiff fine when she appeared before the mags. It all made quite a few column inches in the local rag. The lesson still didn't seem to have been learned by the offending mums because the police made several more blitzes over the next 6 months and all of the transgressors had their wallets lightened before the message got through.
hornetrider said:
Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Well I used to walk 20 miles to school, totally unsupervised, when I was only six months old. I had to walk through fields of raging bulls, and our family were so poor we could only afford shoes made out of broken glass. And I used to walk the family's pet crocodile at t'same time.
Pfft. You don't know you were born lad. I had to crawl to school when I was an embryo, through a live volcano being scalded by molten lava, whilst vultures scratched my eyes out and salamanders bit my b
ks off. And when I got to school, the lions guarding the gates used to tear my arms off and chew them for fun. But did I complain? Did I 'eck, because it made me the man I am today.
Back at the start of the 20th century the infant mortality rate was something like 20% in the UK. Mind you my grand parents didn't die and come to think of it neither did my wife's grand parents or my mate's for that matter. In that case infant mortality can't have been q big deal...
I used to walk to primary school when I was a bit older but 4/5 is IMHO too young. Also the biggest difference is that my old primary school was on the same housing estate where I lived and I didn't have to cross any main roads. My kids will.
I used to walk to primary school when I was a bit older but 4/5 is IMHO too young. Also the biggest difference is that my old primary school was on the same housing estate where I lived and I didn't have to cross any main roads. My kids will.
Devil2575 said:
Neonblau said:
rlw said:
Mave said:
You walked to school without supervision when you were 4 years old?
And me, from 5. How the fk else was I going to get there? We didn't have a car and my parents worked.Obviously, if you died....you dont get to be a PH member so....debate won!
Hol said:
Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
anonymous said:
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leigh1050 said:
I was 5 and it was only about half a mile.
mph1977 said:
I did so from the age of 6 , although there were various known places i could seek assistance if therewas an issue ( family friends etc)
rlw said:
And me, from 5. How the fk else was I going to get there? We didn't have a car and my parents worked.
k else was I going to get there? We didn't have a car and my parents worked.Neonblau said:
Me too, from 4 1/2 and I had to cross two roads and walk through woods. I never died.
Well I used to walk 20 miles to school, totally unsupervised, when I was only six months old. I had to walk through fields of raging bulls and avoid artillery fire from neighbours, and our family were so poor we could only afford shoes made out of broken glass. And I used to walk the family's pet crocodile at t'same time.Edited by Dr Mike Oxgreen on Thursday 20th November 10:51
It would seem a lot of people walked to School from a very early age, back when they were younger (whenever that was).
And yes. If they are posting on here, then they obviously didn't die.
WHY, that (true) fact seems to upset a few people, so much that they have a hissy-fit is a bit of a mystery?
Edited by Hol on Thursday 20th November 11:38
With what we know today about child mental development, do you think letting a 4 year old walk a kilometre to school unsupervised, across roads and through woodland on their second day of school is a responsible thing to do?
There is a guy round here who drives his kids to school every morning, to the school which is at the bottom of the very same street....
It is (give or take) around 220m from his front door to the school.......
The best bit is that he has created a parking place on what used to be his front garden, but neglected to have a dropped kerb put in, and gets very irate if you park outside his house!
Comedian.
It is (give or take) around 220m from his front door to the school.......
The best bit is that he has created a parking place on what used to be his front garden, but neglected to have a dropped kerb put in, and gets very irate if you park outside his house!
Comedian.
aka_kerrly said:
Late 90s my younger brother would walk unaided to primary school and I would ride my bike three an half miles to secondary school.
Rape an murder only started in the 2000s
Roughly the same time that there was a change in political climate to see the offenders as the victims. Parents were in the wrong for disciplining their kids and so we got to a stage where anything went, as long as you didn't get caught, and then only if you didn't get caught by the dwindling numbers of police. But IMHO the problem starts in school. Four or five years ago , my grand daughter was attacked on her way home. Her route used to take her past our house,so often she'd stop by. One day she arrived in a state. She'd been attacked by a gang whipped up by a couple of females and managed to escape after giving a decent account of herself on odds of three teenage blokes and a couple of teenage girls. I ,at the time reported the matter to the police as my daughter was at work . School Pcso got involved and CCTV footage showed the incident. Result- she was given a days exclusion for FIGHTING BACK. The others, two days. My daughter raised this with the school governors with no result ,and even the county councillor for the area could not get a result. Apparently, my GD should have lain there and been punched/kicked etc . Rape an murder only started in the 2000s
bltamil1 said:
There is a guy round here who drives his kids to school every morning, to the school which is at the bottom of the very same street....
It is (give or take) around 220m from his front door to the school.......
Back in the day on my daily commute I frequently used to see a local woman do just the same. A wholly unnecessary addition to what was already dire congestion for those travelling to work (on the bus in my case). It is (give or take) around 220m from his front door to the school.......
bltamil1 said:
The best bit is that he has created a parking place on what used to be his front garden, but neglected to have a dropped kerb put in, and gets very irate if you park outside his house!
Comedian.
I may be wrong but I reckon he is committing an offence every time he drives across the pavement.Comedian.
konark said:
It never ceases to amaze me that people who buy a house near a school seem to get upset by parents dropping their kids off and parking for a few minutes. It's like buying a house near a sewage works and then moaning about the smell. People should do their 'due diligence', if they don't like a lot of traffic at 9am and 3.30pm buy somewhere else.
So then Konark, answer me this...The company i work for, their entrance is directly, give or take 10ft opposite the driveway to a secondary school, as well as the main entrance into a decent sized industrial estate & a separate road into about 10 business units.
During collection/drop off times, it's f
king chaos, many of the business have artic lorries/delivery vehicles, staff & customers coming & going, yet the parents see it perfectly fit to park on the double yellows, on both sides thus making the road into a single road & causing massive traffic jams, the parents also think it's absolutely fine to park over the entrance to our business & the units next door, meaning nobody can get in & out & they'll also park on the pavement rendering it useless.Why did they put the school where the industrial estate was?
Apologies if I've missed it in previous posts but there must be parents of school age children on here so why do you do it ???
A genuine question to which I'd like to know the answer .
You have one or more kids and they have to be driven to school as its more than half a mile away and they must not walk cos its so dangerous !! Course you must not walk them yourself cos you might lose some weight .
They have to be driven in the biggest 4x4 you can possibly afford to show all the other parents how important you are and can clog up the road twice a day to maximum affect .
When you get to the school you ignore all the parking restrictions and dump your vehicle so as to cause the most inconvenience and disruption as possible because of your aversion to actually walk any distance .
You do all this without a single thought or consideration to anybody else and totally oblivious to the detrimental effect you have on other people .
A genuine question to which I'd like to know the answer .
You have one or more kids and they have to be driven to school as its more than half a mile away and they must not walk cos its so dangerous !! Course you must not walk them yourself cos you might lose some weight .
They have to be driven in the biggest 4x4 you can possibly afford to show all the other parents how important you are and can clog up the road twice a day to maximum affect .
When you get to the school you ignore all the parking restrictions and dump your vehicle so as to cause the most inconvenience and disruption as possible because of your aversion to actually walk any distance .
You do all this without a single thought or consideration to anybody else and totally oblivious to the detrimental effect you have on other people .
johnS2000 said:
Apologies if I've missed it in previous posts but there must be parents of school age children on here so why do you do it ???
A genuine question to which I'd like to know the answer .
You have one or more kids and they have to be driven to school as its more than half a mile away and they must not walk cos its so dangerous !! Course you must not walk them yourself cos you might lose some weight .
They have to be driven in the biggest 4x4 you can possibly afford to show all the other parents how important you are and can clog up the road twice a day to maximum affect .
When you get to the school you ignore all the parking restrictions and dump your vehicle so as to cause the most inconvenience and disruption as possible because of your aversion to actually walk any distance .
You do all this without a single thought or consideration to anybody else and totally oblivious to the detrimental effect you have on other people .
I'll answer. Our daughters school is 5 miles away along a mix of A roads and country lanes which have only the lack of pavement in common. When there we park our Range Rover (you got me there) or Clio (maybe you have not got me) legally not blocking a driveway. If spaces are at a premium we use the pub car park (which has agreed this - although It's a bit rough on them during School events in the evening....A genuine question to which I'd like to know the answer .
You have one or more kids and they have to be driven to school as its more than half a mile away and they must not walk cos its so dangerous !! Course you must not walk them yourself cos you might lose some weight .
They have to be driven in the biggest 4x4 you can possibly afford to show all the other parents how important you are and can clog up the road twice a day to maximum affect .
When you get to the school you ignore all the parking restrictions and dump your vehicle so as to cause the most inconvenience and disruption as possible because of your aversion to actually walk any distance .
You do all this without a single thought or consideration to anybody else and totally oblivious to the detrimental effect you have on other people .
Still this is a village school which is quite small, and community minded.
some of the social housing near me has the grandparents come down in the morning, beep beep beep until the grand kids come out
whizz off far too fast cus they are late every morning
can only imagine how thoughtful they are outside a school, when they show no thought to their neighbours every bloody morning
whizz off far too fast cus they are late every morning
can only imagine how thoughtful they are outside a school, when they show no thought to their neighbours every bloody morning
surveyor said:
I'll answer. Our daughters school is 5 miles away along a mix of A roads and country lanes which have only the lack of pavement in common. When there we park our Range Rover (you got me there) or Clio (maybe you have not got me) legally not blocking a driveway. If spaces are at a premium we use the pub car park (which has agreed this - although It's a bit rough on them during School events in the evening....
Still this is a village school which is quite small, and community minded.
No because you do not fit the profile of the average school run parent .You are, from your answer ,in a very very small minority of people who have at least a nodding acquaintance with proper driving techniques and a modicum of common decency (range rover accepted ).Still this is a village school which is quite small, and community minded.
From experience and reading this thread your average school run parent shows the driving skills and common decency of a lump of concrete and has a wide spread and almost universal "I'm alright jack f*** you attitude .
Come on you parents ?You know who you are as there's so many of you ,justify your low abysmal driving skills and why are you allowed to ignore parking restrictions/park across/in other peoples drives and bring vast swathes of the country to grid lock twice a day.
Private parking abuse is not just something that happens near schools.
Where I live, there is allocated parking on the opposite side of the road from my house. This would be fine, there are enough spaces for one car per house.
OK, so things get a bit more difficult when someone has more than one car, but out of the houses in our row, there is not one with more than one car permanently.
What does really cause issues is people from other roads thinking they can park their cars in our allocated parking spaces. Some from as far as 5 streets away (1 estate car, and a works van, both from one house hold.) When challenged about it, he won't park in the spaces that are allocated to the block he lives in "cos people keep blocking me in!"
There are parking restrictions on the side of the road where the houses are, which mean I can park right outside of my house after 8pm, but it also means I have to move my car by 7 the following morning. Not ideal when you work nights, and get home from work at 4.30, only to have to get up and move the car two and a half hours later.
Where I live, there is allocated parking on the opposite side of the road from my house. This would be fine, there are enough spaces for one car per house.
OK, so things get a bit more difficult when someone has more than one car, but out of the houses in our row, there is not one with more than one car permanently.
What does really cause issues is people from other roads thinking they can park their cars in our allocated parking spaces. Some from as far as 5 streets away (1 estate car, and a works van, both from one house hold.) When challenged about it, he won't park in the spaces that are allocated to the block he lives in "cos people keep blocking me in!"
There are parking restrictions on the side of the road where the houses are, which mean I can park right outside of my house after 8pm, but it also means I have to move my car by 7 the following morning. Not ideal when you work nights, and get home from work at 4.30, only to have to get up and move the car two and a half hours later.
bluenosewrx said:
I'd fking waterboard the mums, happens all the time at my home, they have no consideration for others and regularly block buses in as its a major bus route.
Its only a matter of time before the stealth tacks comes out at night and watch them park with burst tyres the selfish boots.
sorry, gets me raging
Was the school built after you moved there?king waterboard the mums, happens all the time at my home, they have no consideration for others and regularly block buses in as its a major bus route.Its only a matter of time before the stealth tacks comes out at night and watch them park with burst tyres the selfish boots.
sorry, gets me raging
johnS2000 said:
A genuine question to which I'd like to know the answer .
You have one or more kids and they have to be driven to school as its more than half a mile away and they must not walk cos its so dangerous !!
Tick. Tick. Tick.You have one or more kids and they have to be driven to school as its more than half a mile away and they must not walk cos its so dangerous !!
Two. Mile and a half. No pavement and a very busy road to cross.
johnS2000 said:
Course you must not walk them yourself cos you might lose some weight .
They have to be driven in the biggest 4x4 you can possibly afford to show all the other parents how important you are and can clog up the road twice a day to maximum affect .
When you get to the school you ignore all the parking restrictions and dump your vehicle so as to cause the most inconvenience and disruption as possible because of your aversion to actually walk any distance .
You do all this without a single thought or consideration to anybody else and totally oblivious to the detrimental effect you have on other people .
Tick (she is already pretty skinny). XC90 - tick. Tickety, tick, tick.They have to be driven in the biggest 4x4 you can possibly afford to show all the other parents how important you are and can clog up the road twice a day to maximum affect .
When you get to the school you ignore all the parking restrictions and dump your vehicle so as to cause the most inconvenience and disruption as possible because of your aversion to actually walk any distance .
You do all this without a single thought or consideration to anybody else and totally oblivious to the detrimental effect you have on other people .
My wife is the busy executive in question (solicitor). She does the drop off.
When she isn't being a busy exec and it isn't pissing it down she might walk them or cycle.
For reference, they aren't going on their own. They have to cross a fast busy road at a very tricky corner full of the sort of
s in this thread who will happily ignore the new 30 zone set up after someone ran over a fricking horse!Also the school (as per regs) won't let them out on their own, they have to be collected - which means she can find out from the teacher how their day went.
You know, the sort of thing proper parents might care about rather than abandonning their 4 year old at 730am with a packed lunch and a door key.
She doesn't park like a t
t in all honesty but there is a car park.No doubt if there weren't she would park perfectly legally.
Which appears to be a problem for about 50% of posters.
e.g. "It's a real pain with people parking outside my house." you f
king nimby tossers.AndyNetwork said:
Private parking abuse is not just something that happens near schools.
Where I live, there is allocated parking on the opposite side of the road from my house. This would be fine, there are enough spaces for one car per house.
OK, so things get a bit more difficult when someone has more than one car, but out of the houses in our row, there is not one with more than one car permanently.
What does really cause issues is people from other roads thinking they can park their cars in our allocated parking spaces. Some from as far as 5 streets away (1 estate car, and a works van, both from one house hold.) When challenged about it, he won't park in the spaces that are allocated to the block he lives in "cos people keep blocking me in!"
There are parking restrictions on the side of the road where the houses are, which mean I can park right outside of my house after 8pm, but it also means I have to move my car by 7 the following morning. Not ideal when you work nights, and get home from work at 4.30, only to have to get up and move the car two and a half hours later.
When you say "allocated" what do you mean?Where I live, there is allocated parking on the opposite side of the road from my house. This would be fine, there are enough spaces for one car per house.
OK, so things get a bit more difficult when someone has more than one car, but out of the houses in our row, there is not one with more than one car permanently.
What does really cause issues is people from other roads thinking they can park their cars in our allocated parking spaces. Some from as far as 5 streets away (1 estate car, and a works van, both from one house hold.) When challenged about it, he won't park in the spaces that are allocated to the block he lives in "cos people keep blocking me in!"
There are parking restrictions on the side of the road where the houses are, which mean I can park right outside of my house after 8pm, but it also means I have to move my car by 7 the following morning. Not ideal when you work nights, and get home from work at 4.30, only to have to get up and move the car two and a half hours later.
They sound like normal parking spaces free for anyone to use to me.
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