"Residents only" parking sign
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johnS2000 said:
Come on you parents ?You know who you are as there's so many of you ,justify your low abysmal driving skills and why are you allowed to ignore parking restrictions/park across/in other peoples drives and bring vast swathes of the country to grid lock twice a day.
If you are getting caught in the gridlock why don't you walk to work or cycle?walm said:
Tick (she is already pretty skinny). XC90 - tick. Tickety, tick, tick.
My wife is the busy executive in question (solicitor). She does the drop off.
When she isn't being a busy exec and it isn't pissing it down she might walk them or cycle.
For reference, they aren't going on their own. They have to cross a fast busy road at a very tricky corner full of the sort of
s in this thread who will happily ignore the new 30 zone set up after someone ran over a fricking horse!
Also the school (as per regs) won't let them out on their own, they have to be collected - which means she can find out from the teacher how their day went.
You know, the sort of thing proper parents might care about rather than abandonning their 4 year old at 730am with a packed lunch and a door key.
She doesn't park like a tt in all honesty but there is a car park.
No doubt if there weren't she would park perfectly legally.
Which appears to be a problem for about 50% of posters.
e.g. "It's a real pain with people parking outside my house." you fking nimby tossers.
Its strange isn't it .Every body drives perfectly and parks properly and yet everybody also complains about the school run .Even school run parents complain about school run parents . My wife is the busy executive in question (solicitor). She does the drop off.
When she isn't being a busy exec and it isn't pissing it down she might walk them or cycle.
For reference, they aren't going on their own. They have to cross a fast busy road at a very tricky corner full of the sort of
s in this thread who will happily ignore the new 30 zone set up after someone ran over a fricking horse!Also the school (as per regs) won't let them out on their own, they have to be collected - which means she can find out from the teacher how their day went.
You know, the sort of thing proper parents might care about rather than abandonning their 4 year old at 730am with a packed lunch and a door key.
She doesn't park like a t
t in all honesty but there is a car park.No doubt if there weren't she would park perfectly legally.
Which appears to be a problem for about 50% of posters.
e.g. "It's a real pain with people parking outside my house." you f
king nimby tossers.johnS2000 said:
Its strange isn't it .Every body drives perfectly and parks properly and yet everybody also complains about the school run .Even school run parents complain about school run parents .
No one complains about our school run.Then again we live in a set of villages where everyone knows everyone.
The last major dispute was whether or not to remove a set of pews around the font (seriously that one nearly came to blows).
In reality I suspect it is a classic example of one selfish t
t coming up against another one.It's a pretty stressful time of day since juggling the baby and 4 and 6 year old isn't a simple as three-S's, coffee and off to work for the childless exec who finds himself facing a little extra traffic (SURPRISE!).
I almost never do it but the few times I have, I am usually late since my children aren't robots and I am pretty sure the little one waits for THE worst moment to take a gigantic and explosive new-set-of-clothes-requiring dump.
As long as you aren't causing a genuine obstruction (parking in the bus stop - jesus!) then I can well understand why someone might bend the rules.
And when you have say one hundred kids being dropped off - a certain per cent will always be late and not find a space.
Some schools actually SHUT THE DOOR if you aren't there in time.
So what do you do - dump the car for 2 mins and risk the mild ire or end up with no childcare all day when you are supposed to be at work.
walm said:
Oh - so you are just complaining on someone else's behalf.
Which question - you asked loads.
Not once have I actually complained and my one and only question was in response to the OP's question and the replys along the lines of school run parents dumping their cars in / across drives .Which question - you asked loads.
I do not understand the mentality that parks in/across a driveway "for only 2 minutes" !!!!that puts themselves and others at risk by abusing the zigzags !!!
Its not just 1 or 2 its most of them !!
What gives the average school run parent the right to abuse the traffic regulations "en-masse" so to speak ???
And yes I have a massive problem with 4x4s due to the fact that each and every single one of them is driven by somebody with a lack of confidence and abysmal driving skills !! Fortunately I'm not alone in this as, from what I've read , these things and their drivers are universally despised
Edited by johnS2000 on Friday 21st November 16:48
walm said:
AndyNetwork said:
Private parking abuse is not just something that happens near schools.
Where I live, there is allocated parking on the opposite side of the road from my house. This would be fine, there are enough spaces for one car per house.
OK, so things get a bit more difficult when someone has more than one car, but out of the houses in our row, there is not one with more than one car permanently.
What does really cause issues is people from other roads thinking they can park their cars in our allocated parking spaces. Some from as far as 5 streets away (1 estate car, and a works van, both from one house hold.) When challenged about it, he won't park in the spaces that are allocated to the block he lives in "cos people keep blocking me in!"
There are parking restrictions on the side of the road where the houses are, which mean I can park right outside of my house after 8pm, but it also means I have to move my car by 7 the following morning. Not ideal when you work nights, and get home from work at 4.30, only to have to get up and move the car two and a half hours later.
When you say "allocated" what do you mean?Where I live, there is allocated parking on the opposite side of the road from my house. This would be fine, there are enough spaces for one car per house.
OK, so things get a bit more difficult when someone has more than one car, but out of the houses in our row, there is not one with more than one car permanently.
What does really cause issues is people from other roads thinking they can park their cars in our allocated parking spaces. Some from as far as 5 streets away (1 estate car, and a works van, both from one house hold.) When challenged about it, he won't park in the spaces that are allocated to the block he lives in "cos people keep blocking me in!"
There are parking restrictions on the side of the road where the houses are, which mean I can park right outside of my house after 8pm, but it also means I have to move my car by 7 the following morning. Not ideal when you work nights, and get home from work at 4.30, only to have to get up and move the car two and a half hours later.
They sound like normal parking spaces free for anyone to use to me.
The police recognise this, but until the council erect the correct signage, there position is that how are others to know. The council do not want to get involved with issuing parking permits and signage, and therefore it ends up a free for all.
We even have our local MP on the case - but the council still don't want to know. Just another case of our town being the poor relation in the borough, as other towns have been allowed to have the signs and permits, but not us.
johnS2000 said:
Not once have I actually complained...
Riiiiiiight....johnS2000 said:
From experience and reading this thread your average school run parent shows the driving skills and common decency of a lump of concrete and has a wide spread and almost universal "I'm alright jack f*** you attitude .
Come on you parents ?You know who you are as there's so many of you ,justify your low abysmal driving skills and why are you allowed to ignore parking restrictions/park across/in other peoples drives and bring vast swathes of the country to grid lock twice a day.
If that isn't a complaint then I would love to hear what you have to say when you are really whingeing!Come on you parents ?You know who you are as there's so many of you ,justify your low abysmal driving skills and why are you allowed to ignore parking restrictions/park across/in other peoples drives and bring vast swathes of the country to grid lock twice a day.
To reiterate - you don't get caught in traffic nor do you have anyone blocking you in for 5 mins at drop off time but you are ranting on here on others' behalf...?
I tend to agree on the city-dwelling 4x4 issue though!
johnS2000 said:
surveyor said:
I'll answer. Our daughters school is 5 miles away along a mix of A roads and country lanes which have only the lack of pavement in common. When there we park our Range Rover (you got me there) or Clio (maybe you have not got me) legally not blocking a driveway. If spaces are at a premium we use the pub car park (which has agreed this - although It's a bit rough on them during School events in the evening....
Still this is a village school which is quite small, and community minded.
From experience and reading this thread your average school run parent shows the driving skills and common decency of a lump of concrete and has a wide spread and almost universal "I'm alright jack f*** you attitude .Still this is a village school which is quite small, and community minded.
Come on you parents ?You know who you are as there's so many of you ,justify your low abysmal driving skills and why are you allowed to ignore parking restrictions/park across/in other peoples drives and bring vast swathes of the country to grid lock twice a day.
walm said:
If that isn't a complaint then I would love to hear what you have to say when you are really whingeing!
To reiterate - you don't get caught in traffic nor do you have anyone blocking you in for 5 mins at drop off time but you are ranting on here on others' behalf...?
I tend to agree on the city-dwelling 4x4 issue though!
Well it don't look like a complaint to me !! It's more a statement of fact .To reiterate - you don't get caught in traffic nor do you have anyone blocking you in for 5 mins at drop off time but you are ranting on here on others' behalf...?
I tend to agree on the city-dwelling 4x4 issue though!
Your idea of ranting is obviously a lot different to mine .
People telling me they do not park/drive like dicks is not answering my query!!
I would like one of the many who do to tell me why .
I do not commute or get caught in rush hour traffic either. Your average school run has no effect on me at all .
Edited by johnS2000 on Friday 21st November 17:52
Edited by johnS2000 on Friday 21st November 17:53
johnS2000 said:
Well it don't look like a complaint to me !! It's more a statement of fact .
Your idea of ranting is obviously a lot different to mine .
People telling me they do not park/drive like dicks is not answering my query!!
You complained that you weren't getting answers now you're not happy with the answers you get. You've made a statement of opinion not fact about "average school run parents" and asked those people to justify their abysmal driving skills on a forum populated by driving enthusiasts. What response do you expect to get? Maybe you should post your question on mumsnet? Your idea of ranting is obviously a lot different to mine .
People telling me they do not park/drive like dicks is not answering my query!!
Edited by Mave on Friday 21st November 19:04
BHML said:
There is a road near my son's school which is a cul-de-sac and it has "residents only parking" sign at the road entrance. There are a number of marked bays, but no additional signage (other than the main sign at the road entrance). There are also no resident parking permits, etc in operation. Anyone can park there during school pick up times and whilst there are traffic wardens on the main road, I have never known of anyone being fined for parking in the cul-de-sac. But as you might imagine it has led to some unpleasant exchanges between residents and parents dropping off/picking up their kids from school.
From a legal perspective is the "residents only parking" legally enforceable?
If you dont live there, dont park there! Simple. How would you like some ass parking on your drive. Just cos its not a driveway should not mean its ok to invade other peoples parking spacesFrom a legal perspective is the "residents only parking" legally enforceable?
johnS2000 said:
Well it don't look like a complaint to me !! It's more a statement of fact
Fact? Really! No facts just some opinions. You seem to have taken the opinion of a few posters as fact and that it represents the typical parent doing a school run. This is despite claiming to have no experience yourself.In my experience the vast majority of parents walk their children to school. A minority drive them and a minority of them behave unreasonably.
BHML said:
JQ said:
Is it possible it's a private road?
The sign just says residents only parking - there is no signs alluding to it being a private road...My County Council is being hounded to make some areas residents only parking - but it is by permit, and the council want to charge for the permits - but residents wont pay unless they are guaranteed a space!
If it is like our council, there won't be any enforcement.
We received a letter from our primary school HT at half term warning us that Police were going to start ticketing parents as the numerous requests / warnings/pleadings previously made had had zero effect and they were worried about children being injured.
This was because parents were parking on zebra crossings, in front of the school gates, quite often triple parking so blocking the road both ways. The school actually set up a one way system AND parking around the school so (if everybody followed the rules) it would be fine. The problem is it takes a maximum of two idiots to decide the rules don't apply to them for the system to come to a grinding halt.
This was because parents were parking on zebra crossings, in front of the school gates, quite often triple parking so blocking the road both ways. The school actually set up a one way system AND parking around the school so (if everybody followed the rules) it would be fine. The problem is it takes a maximum of two idiots to decide the rules don't apply to them for the system to come to a grinding halt.
Devil2575 said:
In my experience the vast majority of parents walk their children to school. A minority drive them and a minority of them behave unreasonably.
Not round these 'ere parts Problem is we live in a sort of village/town with low population density. Local (smaller) primary schools have closed down and children have to go to larger primary schools further away. At a rough guess I'd say 40% of parents drive. To exacerbate matters the school will NOT open the doors before 8.50 which means parents have to wait with their little cherubs until then. As a result you potentially have 50/60 extra cars around the school during a very short period of time.
Having said all that I don't think it's the majority of parents who cause the problem. It's always a minority of "entitlements" who believe their circumstances are special.
Countdown said:
Devil2575 said:
In my experience the vast majority of parents walk their children to school. A minority drive them and a minority of them behave unreasonably.
Not round these 'ere parts Problem is we live in a sort of village/town with low population density. Local (smaller) primary schools have closed down and children have to go to larger primary schools further away. At a rough guess I'd say 40% of parents drive. To exacerbate matters the school will NOT open the doors before 8.50 which means parents have to wait with their little cherubs until then. As a result you potentially have 50/60 extra cars around the school during a very short period of time.
Having said all that I don't think it's the majority of parents who cause the problem. It's always a minority of "entitlements" who believe their circumstances are special.
They come from all walks of life too - which means wealth , or wealth envy is not a contributor.
Hol said:
I think 'entitlements' is a vet word to describe them.
They come from all walks of life too - which means wealth , or wealth envy is not a contributor.
I didn't mean it in terms of wealth - more that there are some people in life who generally think the rules don't or shouldn't apply to them or that they're justified in breaking the rules. I think you get this attitude in ALL social strata.They come from all walks of life too - which means wealth , or wealth envy is not a contributor.
Countdown said:
Hol said:
I think 'entitlements' is a vet word to describe them.
They come from all walks of life too - which means wealth , or wealth envy is not a contributor.
I didn't mean it in terms of wealth - more that there are some people in life who generally think the rules don't or shouldn't apply to them or that they're justified in breaking the rules. I think you get this attitude in ALL social strata.They come from all walks of life too - which means wealth , or wealth envy is not a contributor.
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