Child being questioned in school
Discussion
Centurion07 said:
Yes, because as a 17 year old, being questioned by two adults in a serious manner, you would obviously know this & have enough composure to say "screw you guys, I'm outta here".
I'm with Otolith on this.
If a spouse cannot be forced to give evidence against their partner in court, then surely this must be on very shaky ground also, morally anyway, if not legally.
A 17 year old is an adult (although not in law)! They are capable of making their own decisions. The door was their unlocked. Just leave and walk through it! I'm with Otolith on this.
If a spouse cannot be forced to give evidence against their partner in court, then surely this must be on very shaky ground also, morally anyway, if not legally.
This is the UK though. No doubt the parents will be writing to the Daily Mail shouting "FALSE IMPRISONMENT" "ILLEGAL" "ASSAULT" "CHILD ABUSE" etc etc
mehball said:
Boohoo
Yes it's legal. The 17 year old could have easily walked out. The door wouldn't have been locked and she was't hand cuffed to a chair. If she answered questions then that's her own fault.
Don't think it's as simple as that. Yes it's legal. The 17 year old could have easily walked out. The door wouldn't have been locked and she was't hand cuffed to a chair. If she answered questions then that's her own fault.
It is an abuse of power as most teenagers actually respect their teachers and wouldn't walk out because it's not the 'right' thing to do.
Therefore, it's easy for you/us to say they should just walk out but when two adults are confronting a child (yes, yes I know, they're 17 - but still effectively a child) I think there is probably more in play than you're taking account of
Id consider school in respect that its similar to a place of work (and in this case its not just pupil disciple that is being dealt with), acas guidelines should be followed strictly.
IMHO the mother should put in a grievance and the child should make a complaint to the board of trustee/governers.
IMHO the mother should put in a grievance and the child should make a complaint to the board of trustee/governers.
These things are never straight forward and it's pretty difficult to speculate without more detail, however:
If it had been a normal member of staff then I would consider asking a student about them normal business. How else is a school expected to deal with or identify issues with conduct performance etc.
This item is slight contentious as it's the relationship between pupil and staff is not just professional. However I don't see (without knowing the circumstances) how that changes the fundamental nature of the enquiry. If anything I would say the mother has obviously put the kid in a tricky situation. If there was nothing to hide it sounds like there would be no issue.
If it had been a normal member of staff then I would consider asking a student about them normal business. How else is a school expected to deal with or identify issues with conduct performance etc.
This item is slight contentious as it's the relationship between pupil and staff is not just professional. However I don't see (without knowing the circumstances) how that changes the fundamental nature of the enquiry. If anything I would say the mother has obviously put the kid in a tricky situation. If there was nothing to hide it sounds like there would be no issue.
Two teachers questioning a child about something the child has/is alleged to have done, or even another child is alleged to have done is fine as far as I am concerned. Questioning a child about what their parents have done in connection with a disciplinary offence is bang out of order.
To the usual "Billy big balls" characters on PH saying that the child could have simply walked out etc, you might want to actually know what you're talking about before you go talking crap. It is entirely possible for two older people in a postion of authority to assert dominance and in effect detain a student against her will without the need for physical restraint.
As for what the mother has done, it's irrellevant. If it was serious then the Police should have been involved. If it wasn't then the child should most certainly not been dragged into it.
To the usual "Billy big balls" characters on PH saying that the child could have simply walked out etc, you might want to actually know what you're talking about before you go talking crap. It is entirely possible for two older people in a postion of authority to assert dominance and in effect detain a student against her will without the need for physical restraint.
As for what the mother has done, it's irrellevant. If it was serious then the Police should have been involved. If it wasn't then the child should most certainly not been dragged into it.
pinchmeimdreamin said:
dudleybloke said:
A few people here need to re-read the op.
The bit where the child is a Boy ? or where he wanted to leave the room but wasn't allowed ?overend said:
The child said clearly that he did not wish to answer questions and indicated that they wished to leave the interview. The questions continued for a further 15 minutes.
They wished to leave but the interview continued for a further 15 minutes does kind of imply that they were not allowed too or felt unable to leave.Devil2575 said:
insults
Contributions from you in the last few threads you've posted in:Devil2575 said:
Have you ever considered that you should just shut the fk up?
Devil2575 said:
Wow, you really are a proper weapons grade bellend aren't you.
Devil2575 said:
Is it that you are a big tt perhaps?
Devil2575 said:
Wow. You're a bit of a tt aren't you.
Oh and you're also talking complete bks.
Oh and you're also talking complete bks.
Devil2575 said:
You really are a proper bellend aren't you.
Perhaps time to consider your posting style...?Derek Smith said:
Fab32 said:
Derek if you are the safeguarding officer and what you have said is true you need to approach your club for some training.
Care to elaborate?As the designated safeguarding person for your organisation you should not be conducting safeguarding enquires and certainly should not be inviting parents and adults in for meetings if their are safeguarding concerns.
Also explaining to the child the concerns before speaking with them is not a good idea.
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