PSCO's vist about our dogs

[Greendubber]

Charlie1986 said:

if the complaint has been made then the police are doing the right thing and investigating it of which I have no problem as the road the house is on leads to the local school cricket and rugby pitches so kids are using it everyday . but as you say its a pain the ass.

Make sure you put the kettle on

[Vaud]

Charlie1986 said:

I asked if they escaped how did they get back in and why didn't the person not ring the gate intercom where I was in all day so was my partner.

As someone that is scared of dogs (irrational fear maybe) - from my perspective I would be getting away from the dog and area, not trying to ring intercoms to find an owner.

[singlecoil]

Charlie1986 said:

Greendubber said:

My money is on a spurious complaint off the back of a neighbour who's fed up with barking dogs if the OP is adamant his dogs can't get out.

That's what my money is on plus we recently rejected there planning application for them knocking down and re building what would over looked our house entirely! I went round the garden in the summer and made sure there was no gaps where they could get out. and double checked this last night.

The above would seem to suggest that there is a dog barking issue.

There's an old proverb that says "there's none so deaf as the owner of a barking dog"

Do your dogs spend lot of time in the garden, and do they bark?

[Charlie1986]

singlecoil said:

The above would seem to suggest that there is a dog barking issue.

There's an old proverb that says "there's none so deaf as the owner of a barking dog"

Do your dogs spend lot of time in the garden, and do they bark?

yes they bark at people walking past the gate or at the door. We have building work in the street just now so a lot more traffic and people walking past so the dogs haven't been out unless there is someone in the garden with them to stop them barking.

[JustinP1]

Charlie1986 said:

Deal with some making fake complaints about our dogs and having the police make 2 visits where we are adamant that it is fake. and its just a neighbour who has a grudge

Be careful.

Only a few months ago my wife's grandparents had a visit from the 'police' about their dog.

Neither are in the best of health, her grandfather has the onset of Parkison's and he's the healthier, and were both scared stiff.

They were 'interviewed' about their dog, who apparently had messed in someone else's garden a few days ago, whilst in the care of a child. The only child that could have been with their dog didn't visit that day.

They informed the 'police' this, and in reply they told her that is was an offence with a fine of thousands of pounds for messing in a public place. Instead the police left them with a £60 fine.


When I investigate myself, I find that it's two PCSOs. Regardless of that fact that someone's garden is not a 'public place' so there was no offence, the allegation was denied, and counter evidence was supplied which showed the witness as being unreliable and at best mistaken. In any case, it transpired that the witness did not actually see the dog defecate, just put 2 and 2 together.

It took some weeks for the chief of the police station to retract the fine, and the request to re-educate the PCSOs in both of their handling of the situation and the law I am not sure was enacted.


So, if it's PCSOs be prepared for the 'look how big my balls are' routine. After all, there's only so many reasons someone would want to do it...

[Zoon]

Not sure what the issue is here.
Nobody has been injured, your dogs haven't escaped, you've not been arrested or questioned under caution.
Don't see why you need to get a solicitor involved really.

[singlecoil]

Charlie1986 said:

singlecoil said:

The above would seem to suggest that there is a dog barking issue.

There's an old proverb that says "there's none so deaf as the owner of a barking dog"

Do your dogs spend lot of time in the garden, and do they bark?

yes they bark at people walking past the gate or at the door. We have building work in the street just now so a lot more traffic and people walking past so the dogs haven't been out unless there is someone in the garden with them to stop them barking.

They can be trained out of barking at passers-by, if you want to make the effort. I gather they haven't been barking recently, but that does suggest that previously there was a bit of a problem.

[Charlie1986]

thanks guys for you input.

My misses has just called me and it has turned out the officer has called with some more information and doesn't need to visit tonight. He is happy from the PSCO visit the dogs are not being aggressive and it has been a false complaint.

The complaint states the dog was being aggressive and barking towards her and her dog from inside our property. then proceeded to follow her up the road to the large playing fields on 31-10-2014 at 1130am The Dog in question is the Wheaton terrier but described as our cross breed. It has been discussed and agreed that there is no evidence that the dog could have been out in the day in question as on 31st OCT I had both dogs in work with me im away 6.30AM I only know that as we had a child's party during the day and 1 of the kids was allergic so I took them to work.

its just really annoyed me that someone would go to such depths.

And to clear it up I didn't go to a solicitor we have 4 in our family and my FIL was there when we first found out as its there house but we stay in the annexe until we move in to our house in Feb 2015.

[Greendubber]

So I presume they will be speaking with the complainant and advising them about making false reports to the Police?

[Charlie1986]

All that got said is he is visiting them next week to clear everything up as they are away.

After asking some people our neighbours are away till Tuesday so it cant be much of a coincidence with what he said and what we found out.

Just really pisses me of that people would do this.

[Trailhead]

Charlie1986 said:

All that got said is he is visiting them next week to clear everything up as they are away.

After asking some people our neighbours are away till Tuesday so it cant be much of a coincidence with what he said and what we found out.

Just really pisses me of that people would do this.

Might be worth confronting them head on in a polite manner of course to clear things up on a personal level. These things have a funny way of escalating quickly.

Find out there problem and try to put the issue to bed!

[RobbyJ]

Charlie1986 said:

The dogs in question do bark at people walking by but have never shown aggression they are Spaniel x Lurcher and a Wheaton Terrier.
was looking for some general comments

I'm not surprised you've had a complaint. Imagine what it's like living next door to you having to listen to your badly behaved dogs barking all day long, it would drive me round the bend. I've had dogs all my life including a spaniel and several German Shepherds and they have been trained to be well behaved and only bark when someone knocks/rings at the door. Having them yapping away all the time must drive your neighbors crazy and perhaps they thought this was the only way to deal with it.

Get some training for your dogs, keep them quiet and watch the problem go away.

[Antony Moxey]

RobbyJ said:

Charlie1986 said:

The dogs in question do bark at people walking by but have never shown aggression they are Spaniel x Lurcher and a Wheaton Terrier.
was looking for some general comments

I'm not surprised you've had a complaint. Imagine what it's like living next door to you having to listen to your badly behaved dogs barking all day long, it would drive me round the bend. I've had dogs all my life including a spaniel and several German Shepherds and they have been trained to be well behaved and only bark when someone knocks/rings at the door. Having them yapping away all the time must drive your neighbors crazy and perhaps they thought this was the only way to deal with it.

Get some training for your dogs, keep them quiet and watch the problem go away.

He said they bark when someone walks past, not 'all day long'. Why not try reading what he's written - you've even bloody quoted it - before jumping in with both feet. Perhaps your neighbours would feel the same about you, but given your overly agressive attitude to the OP on here maybe they thought better of confronting you about it, if you had lots of people coming to your door and having your dogs yapping away all day driving your neighbours crazy.

[RobbyJ]

Yes but if he lives on a street where people are walking past as he described it sounds like it happens frequently. Possibly I've got the wrong end of the stick but it just really annoys me when people don't know how to control their own dogs. I can't stand the noise of barking in my own house and our dogs never barked outside or inside unless there was something actually happening that warranted it. Also to be quite honest I've never lived on a street like that where people walk past but it certainly didn't used to stop some of our neighbors dogs just standing outside or inside and just barking for hours and hours with nothing at all to bark at. It's just bad form on every level. Like most on here I'm entitled to my opinion and based on what has been said I feel the OP needs to control his dogs better, that's it really. In any kind of civilised neighborhood it's not OK to have 3 dogs barking away at every person that walks past no matter how infrequently.

[Antony Moxey]

RobbyJ said:

Yes but if he lives on a street where people are walking past as he described it sounds like it happens frequently. Possibly I've got the wrong end of the stick but it just really annoys me when people don't know how to control their own dogs. I can't stand the noise of barking in my own house and our dogs never barked outside or inside unless there was something actually happening that warranted it. Also to be quite honest I've never lived on a street like that where people walk past but it certainly didn't used to stop some of our neighbors dogs just standing outside or inside and just barking for hours and hours with nothing at all to bark at. It's just bad form on every level. Like most on here I'm entitled to my opinion and based on what has been said I feel the OP needs to control his dogs better, that's it really. In any kind of civilised neighborhood it's not OK to have 3 dogs barking away at every person that walks past no matter how infrequently.

Well my dog's like the OP's in that if he sees people walking past he barks, and exactly like you his barking drives me up the wall however, and it's a pretty big however, when you're outside it really isn't that loud. Certainly from the pavement you can't hear anything (it's perhaps a car and a half length from the pavement to the front door), and even then it's just a couple of woofs rather than an incessant non-stop noise. There are people going past all the time - quick few woofs and he settles back down - perhaps the OP's dog is the same.

I completely agree with you regarding dogs barking constantly at nothing in particular, but the OP said his dog wasn't like that, it just barked when people went past, same as my dog and it would seem, very similar to your dog(s) too.

[singlecoil]

Antony Moxey said:

I completely agree with you regarding dogs barking constantly at nothing in particular, but the OP said his dog wasn't like that, it just barked when people went past, same as my dog and it would seem, very similar to your dog(s) too.

How much of a noise nuisance it is in the OP's case will depend on how loud the dogs bark, for how long, how far away the unwilling hearer is, the acoustics of the street, and on how often people walk past. In your case it sounds like not much of a problem at all, but it could be quite different in the OP's case.

[herewego]

The OP's dogs appear to be in the front garden barking through the steel railings. I wouldn't like that next door.

[Blackpuddin]

In my experience very few dogs DON'T bark when someone walks past your (ie their) property.

[RobbyJ]

Yes true true, I think I've taken my frustration out at the OP rather than at barking dogs in general. Sorry OP, bad day

Edited by RobbyJ on Friday 21st November 14:16

[Antony Moxey]

herewego said:

The OP's dogs appear to be in the front garden barking through the steel railings. I wouldn't like that next door.

All the time yes, but as has been pointed out about, there's barking and there's barking - if it's a couple of times a day for a few short bursts it's not a problem, if it's all day constantly then that's a different story.