Neighbours and private unallocated parking

Neighbours and private unallocated parking

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Black_S3

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2,667 posts

187 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Firstly I'm not sure that this is the right forum to be asking this in as I'm aware in many cases the strict letter of the law can be almost irrelevant when trying to maintain a decent relationship with the neigbours but I'm at a bit of a loss so thought here would be a good place to start for advice. Hopefully someone will have managed to resolve a similar issue!

We moved into a rented house about 5 months ago and have found it impossible to park anywhere without either being told to move/blocked in/note left on our car. We have really made an effort to use spaces that are not being regularly used, gradually we've been ''moved on'' from every space.


The layout is a private courtyard of 8 houses with 8 unallocated parking bays to the front, to the rear there are 2 blocks of 4 garages with a further 8 unallocated parking bays. That's 2 spaces + a garage per house so you'd imagine with all 8 houses only being 2 bed there would be plenty of parking. The problem is 3 of the houses always park both their cars to the front as it's directly outside their house, but they (+2 others) have also put their house numbers on the unallocated parking bays at the rear so they always have a visitor space.

I've confirmed with my landlord + land registry that all parking spaces are unallocated... I had another note left on my car last night telling me not to park in the space I've been using for 3 months as it is a private space (this happens to be the last space I haven't been told to move from, otherwise I'd just park somewhere else).

The only thing I can think of is getting the management company to come along and take the numbers of the bays + follow up with a letter reminding that all bays are unallocated, but I have no idea how to find out who the management company is; that's assuming there is one.... (no luck asking the landlord - his view is just park where is free and tell them to fk off. Which is a brilliant apart from the potential damage to a car/one was ttish enough to block me in and bugger off to work on the train.)

I know the problem is caused by 3 houses who have all been here a long time, are good friends with each other and feel like they have some level of authority owed to them due collective numbers and length of time they have served living in this sthole. Bearing in mind I plan to move in 7 months when the lease is up but have no reasonable option to just park somewhere else, any advice on how to resolve this would be appreciated?

Edited by Black_S3 on Monday 24th November 06:03

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Try a polite round robin letter to all the houses asking people to share the spaces, or suggesting a meeting to discuss a resolution.

gazza285

9,780 posts

207 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Park where you can, and if you get blocked in again get the police involved as obstruction is an offence.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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The police are unlikely to be interested in a parking dispute off road. The only solution here involves discussion with the neighbours, not confrontation.

Black_S3

Original Poster:

2,667 posts

187 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
The police are unlikely to be interested in a parking dispute off road. The only solution here involves discussion with the neighbours, not confrontation.
Was hoping you'd have some input smile

I wouldn't even entertain that anyway as it would just turn it from mainly silent warfare to open warfare straight away.... I know the space to avoid being blocked in now anyway.

Thanks - I'll give the letter a try but thought it might be easier to get the management company to do it if there is one as I've already spoken to most of them - they all seam quite cagey when it's mentioned... (apart from the blocking in tosser)

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Make the letter upbeat in tone and all about neighbourly sharing. The problem is that some people are just unreasonable and refuse to compromise. There is not much you can do with such types.

kiethton

13,883 posts

179 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
Try a polite round robin letter to all the houses asking people to share the spaces, or suggesting a meeting to discuss a resolution.
This, park as you like and keep a trolley jack/casters in the house incase they block you in and go away again...

Blaster72

10,772 posts

196 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Have you spoken to the ones who leave notes and block you in or are they too cowardly to identify themselves?

If you have spoken to them, what reason do they give?

Perhaps they don't recognise your car and think it's someone who doesn't live there just dumping the car?

At my place all the spaces are numbered but for God knows what reason the numbers don't correspond to the flat numbers so whenever someone new moves in there's always a bit of confusion.

We never resort to petty notes or blocking in though, we just pop round and say hello and let them know which spot is there's.

7 months left is a long time to be messing about getting the run around

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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OP I can't offer any help but this sort of situation really annoys me. I hope you get it sorted. Actually, I hope you come out of it with your own unofficial allocated space, and a visitor space.

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Simple answer is to put your house number on all and any spaces that don't already have a number on, then start leaving notes for them and blocking them in. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

For extra fk you factor, install drop bollards.

1Addicted

693 posts

120 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Foliage said:
Simple answer is to put your house number on all and any spaces that don't already have a number on, then start leaving notes for them and blocking them in. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

For extra fk you factor, install drop bollards.
Fight fire with fire smile

I'm sad to say that "the gang" are extremely likely to ignore any nice letters from you.

Let me guess, none of them have spoken to you face to face? Usually the next step is keying your car so preempt a face to face meeting before this starts. You're certainly not going to make any friends here but don't feel upset as the neighbours who feel that they own the place clearly don't care.

If asserting some authority/reason doesn't work then get nasty.

Edited by 1Addicted on Monday 24th November 12:24

SLCZ3

1,204 posts

204 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Oh dear, bring back the grammer schools, "clique".

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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SLCZ3 said:
Oh dear, bring back the grammer schools, "clique".
Er...

littleredrooster

5,523 posts

195 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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SLCZ3 said:
Oh dear, bring back the grammer schools, "clique".
The irony is strong in this one... *grammar*
Love it. biggrin

EU_Foreigner

2,833 posts

225 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Put a sign in your car with something like "any questions, please contact me at number 4"

Do they think it is a non resident parking for a station or something like that?

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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littleredrooster said:
SLCZ3 said:
Oh dear, bring back the grammer schools, "clique".
The irony is strong in this one... *grammar*
Love it. biggrin
Irony? Doesn't seem contrary to me.

SLCZ3

1,204 posts

204 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Foliage said:
littleredrooster said:
SLCZ3 said:
Oh dear, bring back the grammer schools, "clique".
The irony is strong in this one... *grammar*
Love it. biggrin
Irony? Doesn't seem contrary to me.
Glad to note that you noted wot I wrote.

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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SLCZ3 said:
Glad to note that you noted wot I wrote.
These aren't the lack of punctuations your looking for /me waves hand..


Am I doing this right? Sorry my grammar is terrible, not feeling too well today. Then again my grammar is terrible most of the time anyway.

scarble

5,277 posts

156 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Foliage said:
These aren't the lack of punctuations your looking for /me waves hand..
Not sure if deliberate..

Red Devil

13,055 posts

207 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Black_S3 said:
I have no idea how to find out who the management company is; that's assuming there is one.... (no luck asking the landlord - his view is just park where is free and tell them to fk off. Which is a brilliant apart from the potential damage to a car/one was ttish enough to block me in and bugger off to work on the train.)
Who do you pay the rent to: the landlord direct or a letting agent? If it's the former, unless he himself is renting and sub-letting he will definitely know and appears to be being deliberately awkward by not telling you. If the latter, they will too, so ask them.