Registered alias?

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JonRB

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Tuesday 25th November 2014
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It's possible to change your name with no more than a legal declaration that effectively says "this is my old name, I henceforth wish to be known as this new name, and give up my old name entirely and promise not to use it any more"

However, is there an equivalent that allows you to declare a legal alias? To use either or?

I realise that the answer may well be "no" as there is a potential for fraud and the like, but I'd be interested in knowing if such a thing were possible.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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What a bizarre question. Anyway, you answered it yourself. You can call yourself what you like, so long as you don't adopt a name to pursue fraud.

JonRB

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Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
Anyway, you answered it yourself.
Not really. You can legally *change* your name, such that you can satisfy a request for ID or get a credit card or whatever.

But, say, if an actor or DJ or whatever needed to provide proof of identity for their stage name, could they? Or would their only option to choose whether to change their name to their stage name or reveal their real name?



anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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WGAF?

JonRB

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Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
WGAF?
Assuming WGAF is 'Who Gives a fk?' Then obviously I do or I wouldn't have asked the fking question. rolleyes

Welcome to the 21st Century, grandad. The likes of Facebook ask you to prove your identity. If you have an alias or professional name (think Banksy, for example, or a stage performer, or the like) Facebook can, and do, shut down accounts unless the owner 'outs' themself with their birth name even if they do not wish to have it connected with their other name.


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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WGAF?

JonRB

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Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
WGAF?
Well, thanks for your non-help. WGAF whether you GAF? rolleyes



anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Perhaps, by the way, you have never visited Facebook. People use all sorts of names on there. Even God has a page.

JonRB

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Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
Perhaps, by the way, you have never visited Facebook. People use all sorts of names on there. Even God has a page.
I credited you with more intelligence than taking an example or allegory as being the actual fact. To be honest, I'm slightly surprised by your responses as we've knocked around on the same threads for years, Breadvan, and you usually come across as a reasonable chap.

There are many situations in the modern world where a legitimate alternate persona or stage name is desirable. I thought it was a reasonable question to ask and I didn't really expect you to not only be so dismissive but be so aggressively dismissive.

Rather than go into more detail, perhaps I will leave it there.



Jon1967x

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124 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Go into business and you can be 'real name' trading as 'different name'

Unfortunately on any formal correspondence, receipts and the like you need to mention this, although I doubt that's why squiggle, the artist formerly known as prince called himself this

dacouch

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129 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
WGAF?
I would love to think you use that in the court room

WinstonWolf

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239 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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JonRB said:
Breadvan72 said:
Perhaps, by the way, you have never visited Facebook. People use all sorts of names on there. Even God has a page.
I credited you with more intelligence than taking an example or allegory as being the actual fact. To be honest, I'm slightly surprised by your responses as we've knocked around on the same threads for years, Breadvan, and you usually come across as a reasonable chap.

There are many situations in the modern world where a legitimate alternate persona or stage name is desirable. I thought it was a reasonable question to ask and I didn't really expect you to not only be so dismissive but be so aggressively dismissive.

Rather than go into more detail, perhaps I will leave it there.
I can remember when PH was full of helpful people, I'm sure one will be along in time...

CoolHands

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195 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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I'm not sure if you can really change your name. But then, what is a name? In Khoisan I am known as click cluck click bop click . Yours,


Impasse

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241 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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If saying "the likes of Facebook ask you to prove your identity" is "an allegory", then I must be C S Lewis. OP, you might like to look "allegory" up somewhere, as you seem to have an uncertain grasp of the word's meaning.

Apols if grumpy, but this seems like the ultimate First World non problem.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 26th November 06:31

JonRB

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Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
If saying "the likes of Facebook ask you to prove your identity" is "an allegory", then I must be C S Lewis. OP, you might like to look "allegory" up somewhere, as you seem to have an uncertain grasp of the word's meaning.
Yes, fair comment - it was a poor choice of word. Anyway, point was that Facebook wasn't the motivation for my question; I was using it as an example.

Breadvan72 said:
Apols if grumpy, but this seems like the ultimate First World non problem.
With respect, just because it is a non-problem to you in your experience then that doesn't make it a non-problem. There are plenty of people for whom two identities are desirable; artists, DJs, bloggers, and members of the transgender community, for example. In the latter case, many clubs require ID to enter and so a transgendered person is immediately forced to "out" themself.

Breadvan72 said:
Perhaps, by the way, you have never visited Facebook. People use all sorts of names on there. Even God has a page.
Again, with respect, I think you may be misinformed there:
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/17/...
https://www.facebook.com/chris.cox/posts/101013017...

Anyway, no matter. PistonHeads was probably the wrong place to ask this question.



Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 26th November 09:34

Derek Smith

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248 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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JonRB said:
It's possible to change your name with no more than a legal declaration that effectively says "this is my old name, I henceforth wish to be known as this new name, and give up my old name entirely and promise not to use it any more"

However, is there an equivalent that allows you to declare a legal alias? To use either or?

I realise that the answer may well be "no" as there is a potential for fraud and the like, but I'd be interested in knowing if such a thing were possible.
There is no offence of using a different name to your 'real' one. You can call yourself what you want, although Julian Clary ran into trouble when he called himself The Joan Collins Fan Club.

I had to interview a Page 3 girl who gave her Page 3 name following an accident. The suggestion was that I should report her for not giving her real name but there was no offence. She also gave the address of her agent's office. But she replied to all correspondence on the matter and the CPS told me not to pursue it.

Cherry Blair calls herself Booth when she feels like it. What is her 'real' name? So you can use both names: your given one and the one which you wish to be known as.

There will be difficulties when you have to produce documentation but these can be overcome.


JonRB

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Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Derek Smith said:
She also gave the address of her agent's office. But she replied to all correspondence on the matter and the CPS told me not to pursue it.
Indeed. I heard of a similar situation where a motorist gave the address of his solicitor as his contact address when exchanging details. The CPS concluded that he had complied with the Road Traffic Act with regards to giving a contact address and that it was not mandated to give your home address.

Derek Smith said:
There will be difficulties when you have to produce documentation but these can be overcome.
That's the knub of the question. smile