Removing wheel clamps.
Discussion
I don't think I've ever seen anybody so totally inept at using an angle grinder in my life before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfXdcsW8dJI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfXdcsW8dJI
Breadvan72 said:
So if I kick your door down but offer to replace it I have done nothing wrong, eh?
How about I set fire to your car but get you another one just like it?
Im not saying you have not done anything wrong- Im saying how could a case of criminal damage realistically stick if you had already made good with replacing like for like. I assume a damage claim must have some financial value or it would not be a claim. If there is nothing to replace, there is no claim. How about I set fire to your car but get you another one just like it?
spikey78 said:
What would happen if one removed a clamp and completely removed any evidence of it having been there at all? 'Clamp? What clamp?'
Would you be done on the balance of probabilities being that you removed it, or not due to lack of evidence?!
Just curious really..
AFAIK, "balance of probabilities" is not enough for a conviction in a criminal case, only for a civil case.Would you be done on the balance of probabilities being that you removed it, or not due to lack of evidence?!
Just curious really..
shakotan said:
I don't think I've ever seen anybody so totally inept at using an angle grinder in my life before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfXdcsW8dJI
Wally!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfXdcsW8dJI
But this is even better! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_OdXF1cDfc
A few years ago, I posted this:
I was clamped in a private car park of the NCP type in london. The clamper was lazy and only connected up the bottom chain (which connects the two bottom corners of the clamp) which meant I could folks the clamp down.
The chain went in between the wishbone and the drive shaft. So I did what any normal PHer would do.
I folded the clamp down to the floor, loosened the wheel nuts, jacked the car, removed the wheel, disconnected the hub from the wishbone, loosened the anti roll bar, lowered the wishbone, slid the chain out, propped the clamp against the wall, put car back together and left :-)
Here are some photos for your amusement. Zero damage done to clamp and perfectly legal. I simply removed my car from the clamp, rather than the other way around.
ETA
This was a private clamp company - I just decided to have some fun and I was *properly* hammered when I completed the job at 2am after a wedding.
Removing a DVLA/Council clamp is actually a completely different kettle of fish and is a criminal matter, not a civil matter as with private clampers "back in the day"
I was clamped in a private car park of the NCP type in london. The clamper was lazy and only connected up the bottom chain (which connects the two bottom corners of the clamp) which meant I could folks the clamp down.
The chain went in between the wishbone and the drive shaft. So I did what any normal PHer would do.
I folded the clamp down to the floor, loosened the wheel nuts, jacked the car, removed the wheel, disconnected the hub from the wishbone, loosened the anti roll bar, lowered the wishbone, slid the chain out, propped the clamp against the wall, put car back together and left :-)
Here are some photos for your amusement. Zero damage done to clamp and perfectly legal. I simply removed my car from the clamp, rather than the other way around.
ETA
This was a private clamp company - I just decided to have some fun and I was *properly* hammered when I completed the job at 2am after a wedding.
Removing a DVLA/Council clamp is actually a completely different kettle of fish and is a criminal matter, not a civil matter as with private clampers "back in the day"
Edited by Wing Commander on Friday 28th November 13:54
Having just re-read my message, I was pretty sure someone would pick up on that! In fact, it was an underground car park at my friends house. Part of the car park is open for the hotel above, and part for the residents in the same block, but these spaces were behind locked shutters. When we got home (my friends wife had driven), we found the clamp, carried out the above, and said friends wife moved my car into the secure compound bit on their spare parking permit.
So when I said drove off, in fact, the car moved about 20ft and was behind a big floor to ceiling fence. Even more of a smack in the face for the clamper I hope.
So when I said drove off, in fact, the car moved about 20ft and was behind a big floor to ceiling fence. Even more of a smack in the face for the clamper I hope.
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