3 points and 100 fine for tyre on 1.5.7

[Garvin]

Ian Geary said:

. . . . My alfa wears the inside edge smooth, but still an mot pass, as part of the 25% not counted. . . . .

I thought the tread still had to be 'visible' on the 25% 'not counted' i.e. smooth is a failure?

[Paul Dishman]

mygoldfishbowl said:

Paul Dishman said:

WinstonWolf said:

I'd say your biggest problem was failing the attitude test. The correct answer is "Yes Sir, no Sir, three bags full" etc.

Absolutely, the OP has talked himself into a ticket

Yes,, but I always fail the "attitude test" there is no way that I will grovel & apologise for what I have done. If I've broken the law then I've broken the law & I have to deal with it. I hate this "attitude test" bks. Treat the officer with respect, yes, but don't get down on your hands knees crying like a little liberal. Have some dignity people.

I agree, there's no need to grovel. Politeness costs nothing, it's always best to look someone in the eye and give a straight answer, whereas mouthing off will always be counter-productive.

Edited to add: I'd expect politeness in return, if not then I'd always make and pursue a complaint

[Bigends]

I used to generally VDRS for a single tyre as long as it wasnt down to the wires and there were no other faults on the car.
Didnt see the need to prosecute / ticket in that case

[Cat]

Garvin said:

I thought the tread still had to be 'visible' on the 25% 'not counted' i.e. smooth is a failure?

Not for cars with no more than 8 passenger seats (plus driver) or goods vehicles with a GVW not exceeding 3500kg.

Cat

[Cat]

mcford said:

Taking the reading to two decimal places is over the top, the majority of the approved MOT tread depth gauges in use are analogue and only measure to one decimal place.

The officers were almost certainly using a calibrated digital gauge which give readings to 2 decimal places.

Cat

[BertBert]

plastic orange said:

Sadly it sounds like typical Police Scotland tactics - targets to meet. I would have the tyre properly inspected and produce the evidence in defence.
I would also consider a formal complaint against the officer. I had to do this in Dundee nearly 40 years ago - was followed home every night from town centre, and stopped by overbearing know-alls regularly till I complained officially. My offence was that I had a modified Morris Minor - still have it, only much more modified.
It doesn't seem to matter these days if you are polite and respectful, particularly if you are young. Oh what fun they'll have with the random breath test stops with the new limits.
As an example of Dundee Police over zealousness, my son was stopped for having the fog lights on the car lit (my car - Seat leon Cupra, nearly new back in 2002). It turned out that there was a fault with the headlight switch that turned the fog lights on and my son told the officer he hadn't turned them on, but fine nonetheless. I contacted the Seat dealership the next day, and after investigating, Seat paid the fine.
However, in all honesty, I wouldn't drive around with Tyres approaching the limit, it's your only contact with the road - lesson learned in that regard perhaps.

PO

Now there's a compelling story. An incident 40 years ago? Really?
Bert

[Matthen]

Some Gump said:

Doesn't understand decimals.
Thinks 1.57 is more important than 1.29.
Gives attitude to copper.

GF.

Guess that's why the officers only gave him 3 points/£100 rather than 6 points/£200 - They could have easily done him for both wheels.

[ging84]

BritishRacinGrin said:

ging84 said:

what we are talking about here is 30 microns under the limit

No we aren't.

If you quoted the whole sentence i was, rather than linking it to the previous point

[ging84]

Matthen said:

Guess that's why the officers only gave him 3 points/£100 rather than 6 points/£200 - They could have easily done him for both wheels.

A) I'm pretty sure we are talking about the 3 readings taken from 1 wheel
B) It's a total myth that you can get 3 points per defective tyre

[e21Mark]

Bit daft running tyres down so low.

[RDMcG]

A display of attitude to the police is a guarantee than there will be no leniency. In my experience cops are not generally a bad lot ( there are exceptions), but you are always better off being respectful and not treating them like idiots.

[Bohally]

Was the copper bald by any chance driving a t5? If so I've had a talking to off him whilst living in Dundee. Appears to have a serious attitude problem (and I'm not one to sit and slate the police).

[Vaud]

Matthen said:

Guess that's why the officers only gave him 3 points/£100 rather than 6 points/£200 - They could have easily done him for both wheels.

Read the Act....

[Bellatrix]

e21Mark said:

Bit daft running tyres down so low.

It's all about priorities when you have to park the stty 98 Fiesta round the corner from the nightclub. Spent all his money on tattoes and steroids , innit.

[plastic orange]

BertBert said:

Now there's a compelling story. An incident 40 years ago? Really?
Bert

I thought that my point was relatively clear, Police in our city generally have a poor attitude, and one that is obviously being handed down through the years - and one I often encountered serving in another blue light service. However, from what I hear, it is getting worse and I wouldn't like to be a young motorist driving anything nice or out the ordinary here. A warning to folk in the city - make sure you're squeaky clean when driving.

PO

[Nigel Worc's]

HertsBiker said:

I've got some slight sympathy for the OP regarding the police attitude, but as I replace tyres when they get old or wear unevenly..... That's where sympathy ends. The 1.6mm limit is so bloody obviously worn out, you cannot fail to see it is knackered. Tyres look crap at 3mm, and it takes ages to wear them down to bald. Infact I don't often run to 3mm as they are usually handling quite poorly by then and wheelspinning a lot or skidding.

Gosh how times change !

I remember the 1mm limit (which still applies to just about everything except cars), you used to see some real bald stuff then.

They still look good to me when they hit the wear bars (which is 2mm, not 1.6).

[blueg33]

My car can turn new rear tyres info slicks in 6000 miles. It's easy to get from perfectly legal to illegal in the space of 2 weeks. Last time it took a week to get tyres delivered as they were on back order.

[Mk3Spitfire]

blueg33 said:

My car can turn new rear tyres info slicks in 6000 miles. It's easy to get from perfectly legal to illegal in the space of 2 weeks. Last time it took a week to get tyres delivered as they were on back order.

2 weeks is plenty of time to realise your car is no longer legal.

[joebongo]

Op, have you had them measured by a tyre place yet? This is your only hope.

[anonymous-user]

I gather from the tats and muscle pills thread that the OP may be powerfully built, but I also gather that he is unlikely to be an habitué of the Board Room.


The OP, earlier:-