Solicitor/Barrister/Signatory help needed please.
Discussion
Chaps.
I've already pm'ed BV in case he can help.
Can the collective suggest somebody, perhaps in the Worcestershire/West Midlands area, that could witness the signing of an Irish legal document called I believe, a "deed of covenant" ?
Local solicitors seem unable to help, and without this help, my mate is going to have to fly to Dublin just to sign this.
Many thanks in advance.
I've already pm'ed BV in case he can help.
Can the collective suggest somebody, perhaps in the Worcestershire/West Midlands area, that could witness the signing of an Irish legal document called I believe, a "deed of covenant" ?
Local solicitors seem unable to help, and without this help, my mate is going to have to fly to Dublin just to sign this.
Many thanks in advance.
Nigel Worc's said:
Chaps.
I've already pm'ed BV in case he can help.
Can the collective suggest somebody, perhaps in the Worcestershire/West Midlands area, that could witness the signing of an Irish legal document called I believe, a "deed of covenant" ?
Local solicitors seem unable to help, and without this help, my mate is going to have to fly to Dublin just to sign this.
Many thanks in advance.
Surely anyone can witness as signature? We sign deeds of Coevenant almost weekely.I've already pm'ed BV in case he can help.
Can the collective suggest somebody, perhaps in the Worcestershire/West Midlands area, that could witness the signing of an Irish legal document called I believe, a "deed of covenant" ?
Local solicitors seem unable to help, and without this help, my mate is going to have to fly to Dublin just to sign this.
Many thanks in advance.
I usually ask my neighbours and vice versa
unless I am in the offfice or at the solicitors.Nigel Worc's said:
Breadvan72 said:
Anyone can witness a deed.
This isn't what he's finding, sadly, two local solicitors have already declined, but won't give a reason, he's waiting on a call from a third.He's been trying to do this since last week.
I think the issue may be the Irish legal jargon.
(Irish drill = a bit like an Irish jig but with funny wigs).
Breadvan72 said:
Irish law uses antiquated English legal forms no longer in use here, but that matters not, as a witness has nothing to do with the content of the deed.. Anyone can witness the signing of a deed.
You mean that the Nationalists in NI are demanding the right to live under a regressive and antiquated English legal system?Now there's a thing.
Breadvan72 said:
Irish law uses antiquated English legal forms no longer in use here, but that matters not, as a witness has nothing to do with the content of the deed.. Anyone can witness the signing of a deed.
You mean that the Nationalists in NI are demanding the right to live under a regressive and antiquated English legal system?Now there's a thing.
Nigel Worc's said:
This isn't what he's finding, sadly, two local solicitors have already declined, but won't give a reason, he's waiting on a call from a third.
He's been trying to do this since last week.
I think the issue may be the Irish legal jargon.
Does he need it witnessed or notarised? If witnessed - the postman can do it - if notarised, he needs a notary public - look in the phone book.He's been trying to do this since last week.
I think the issue may be the Irish legal jargon.
If your friend is asking the lawyesr to advise him on what he is signing, that would explain the refusal - they can't advise unless qualified in Irish law.
Bluebarge said:
Does he need it witnessed or notarised? If witnessed - the postman can do it - if notarised, he needs a notary public - look in the phone book.
If your friend is asking the lawyesr to advise him on what he is signing, that would explain the refusal - they can't advise unless qualified in Irish law.
Nope, he was asking them to witness the signature, two have declined, he's still working on it, or he'll be off to Dublin !If your friend is asking the lawyesr to advise him on what he is signing, that would explain the refusal - they can't advise unless qualified in Irish law.
Breadvan72 said:
Nigel, for the 9999999th time, ANYONE can witness the signature. Handy hint: That includes you.
I know, and I really appreciate the help you've been giving me/him.IF the bank will accept that, we will do it, he's checking.
I haven't seen the form, but there is something about solicitor/legal person on there, I'm neither, and two who are have refused.
If it was as simple as you suggest, and it may well be, then why have two separate solicitors declined an easy few quid ?
Nigel Worc's said:
Breadvan72 said:
Nigel, for the 9999999th time, ANYONE can witness the signature. Handy hint: That includes you.
I know, and I really appreciate the help you've been giving me/him.IF the bank will accept that, we will do it, he's checking.
I haven't seen the form, but there is something about solicitor/legal person on there, I'm neither, and two who are have refused.
If it was as simple as you suggest, and it may well be, then why have two separate solicitors declined an easy few quid ?
The solicitors are probably refusing on the grounds that they (mistakenly) think that they are jeopardising their PI cover for the sake of "a few quid".
They need to go back to skool.
Soov535 said:
Nigel Worc's said:
Breadvan72 said:
Nigel, for the 9999999th time, ANYONE can witness the signature. Handy hint: That includes you.
I know, and I really appreciate the help you've been giving me/him.IF the bank will accept that, we will do it, he's checking.
I haven't seen the form, but there is something about solicitor/legal person on there, I'm neither, and two who are have refused.
If it was as simple as you suggest, and it may well be, then why have two separate solicitors declined an easy few quid ?
The solicitors are probably refusing on the grounds that they (mistakenly) think that they are jeopardising their PI cover for the sake of "a few quid".
They need to go back to skool.
It has to be my mates call, and he doesn't want to jeopardise his daughters mortgage, which is why he hasn't just taken the easy route, and gotten me to sign it, so far.
I'm going on it being forms for a guarantor, and can see why the run a mile attitude.
The excuse about witnessing documents/inferred advice is one I have given a couple of times myself but only when asked to witness stuff that someone has dropped in with that has "Countrywide Property Lawyers" or similar emblazoned on it! Even then if they are nice I will still do it to help out most times.
Much easier to say than "Bugger off you cheeky sod, is it not enough that you have been hoodwinked into paying top dollar to peanut eaters, but now you want to use my services and overheads to help you with using a company that would love to put mine out of business..."
The excuse about witnessing documents/inferred advice is one I have given a couple of times myself but only when asked to witness stuff that someone has dropped in with that has "Countrywide Property Lawyers" or similar emblazoned on it! Even then if they are nice I will still do it to help out most times.
Much easier to say than "Bugger off you cheeky sod, is it not enough that you have been hoodwinked into paying top dollar to peanut eaters, but now you want to use my services and overheads to help you with using a company that would love to put mine out of business..."
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