speeding m25 jct 5
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calibrax said:
I certainly wouldn't do 100mph on that stretch, in either direction. The road surface is horrendous - huge amounts of patching, holes, lumps & bumps, grooves etc.
An absolute disgrace, considering we recently had roadworks there for 18 months to turn it into a "managed motorway". The condition is worse than it was before they started.
I agree it is terrible. Also when the sun is low the patchwork of blacked out temporary lane markings make seeing the actual lane markings difficult.An absolute disgrace, considering we recently had roadworks there for 18 months to turn it into a "managed motorway". The condition is worse than it was before they started.
mygoldfishbowl said:
Scaremongering.
Nope, that's what they enforce when there is no variable limit in place, it's not difficult (what other speed limit would that enforce?)As for what the cameras are set at, I'm not prepared to say on here, too many people have issues with the Police that help out on this forum, I'm not going to risk getting into trouble at work for it. I have hinted to it, which should give you a good chance.
k the motherfFurryExocet said:
roofer said:
I suspect it's a system generated letter, and once you fess up, they'll take you to court for a round of frozen sausages up your freckle.
Most if not all HADECS cameras are live now, 80 mph seems to be the tripping point.
You're pretty close with that figure Most if not all HADECS cameras are live now, 80 mph seems to be the tripping point.
All that,together with the possibilty of being caught in a massive jam,between junctions,caused by the likely results in the form of yet another M25 'accident'.Then the choice between that and using the A25/A20 instead seems ever more increasingly like a no brainer.
Edited by XJ Flyer on Friday 12th December 14:46
Edited by XJ Flyer on Friday 12th December 17:07
Spotted the HADECS cams near J8/9 for the first time yesterday, as they haven't been setting off the radar detector and still didn't then.
So I'm assuming those ones aren't live yet, but I'll be staying alert for them.
The Clackett lane ones have been live for some while now, although this is the first actual nab I've heard about. I'm not convinced they are set at 80, although I tend to drive past them around that speed.
So I'm assuming those ones aren't live yet, but I'll be staying alert for them.
The Clackett lane ones have been live for some while now, although this is the first actual nab I've heard about. I'm not convinced they are set at 80, although I tend to drive past them around that speed.
FurtiveFreddy said:
Spotted the HADECS cams near J8/9 for the first time yesterday, as they haven't been setting off the radar detector and still didn't then.
So I'm assuming those ones aren't live yet, but I'll be staying alert for them.
The Clackett lane ones have been live for some while now, although this is the first actual nab I've heard about. I'm not convinced they are set at 80, although I tend to drive past them around that speed.
I travel this route regularly - I am aware of newish cameras on the overhead gantries and have seen them fire off a few times but not sure if I have seen the HADECS - presumably at the side of the gantry?So I'm assuming those ones aren't live yet, but I'll be staying alert for them.
The Clackett lane ones have been live for some while now, although this is the first actual nab I've heard about. I'm not convinced they are set at 80, although I tend to drive past them around that speed.
Does anyone know what problem these cameras are going to solve? If it's traffic flow management an education campaign to tell those freaking morons to move left after passing will help flow no end. I've driven well over 100k on the M25 this past 10 years and have never seen an accident or even a near miss, certainly never anything caused by "speeding". Maybe the odd nut swerving between lanes looking dangerous, but probably frustrated by the aforementioned morons.
On the other hand, given how safe the roads are with people driving normally, what consideration has been given to the increased accident rate inevitable from random braking being thrown into the system?
I presume the PTB have been busy rigging the figures ahead of time so they can "show" an improvement.
On the other hand, given how safe the roads are with people driving normally, what consideration has been given to the increased accident rate inevitable from random braking being thrown into the system?
I presume the PTB have been busy rigging the figures ahead of time so they can "show" an improvement.
FurryExocet said:
too many people have issues with the Police that help out on this forum.
To be fair, many of us started out with respect for the police but when you attack safe, courteous drivers who just happen to be showing the wrong number on their speedo, and then cause them to stop on the hard shoulder under extreme danger after a jolly good bit of speeding yoursef to catch them, then drone patronisingly about how dangerous they were, that's just plain embarrassing yourselves.You earn respect or in this case you throw it away. Just look at the wannabe TV stars chest puffing and feel ashamed.
I don't know you personally but there's no mystery why we have issues with traffic police in general.
supermono said:
Does anyone know what problem these cameras are going to solve? If it's traffic flow management an education campaign to tell those freaking morons to move left after passing will help flow no end.
The issue of 'lane hogging',in a strictly speed controlled environment,is more often a case of multiple,or sometimes even single,overtakes requiring a long time spent in the overtaking lanes caused by extremely low speed differentials.Often resulting in conflict from behind by traffic driven by those ( who'd like to think ) that the regime 'allows' non existent margins over the limit.Also who often ignore the fact that an overtake requires plenty of room left between the overtaking and overtaken vehicle before returning to the left. Edited by XJ Flyer on Friday 12th December 21:43
covboy said:
Landshark said:
Really, when did the HA get enforcement powers??
Why are they called "HADECS" (Highways Agency Digital Enforcement Camera System) then ?Is Maurice Gatsonides responsible for the enforcement of GATSO's then???
FurryExocet said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
Scaremongering.
Nope, that's what they enforce when there is no variable limit in place, it's not difficult (what other speed limit would that enforce?)As for what the cameras are set at, I'm not prepared to say on here, too many people have issues with the Police that help out on this forum, I'm not going to risk getting into trouble at work for it. I have hinted to it, which should give you a good chance.
mygoldfishbowl said:
emmaT2014 said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
FurryExocet said:
The national speed limit
Scaremongering. mygoldfishbowl said:
FurryExocet said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
Scaremongering.
Nope, that's what they enforce when there is no variable limit in place, it's not difficult (what other speed limit would that enforce?)As for what the cameras are set at, I'm not prepared to say on here, too many people have issues with the Police that help out on this forum, I'm not going to risk getting into trouble at work for it. I have hinted to it, which should give you a good chance.
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