Discussion
simoid said:
IIRC you should stop/pull over unless it's unsafe...?
Yeshttp://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/2695/made
The law said:
(5) A person does not contravene a provision of this regulation if, at the time of the alleged contravention—
(a)he is using the telephone or other device to call the police, fire, ambulance or other emergency service on 112 or 999;
(b)he is acting in response to a genuine emergency; and
(c)it is unsafe or impracticable for him to cease driving in order to make the call
(a)he is using the telephone or other device to call the police, fire, ambulance or other emergency service on 112 or 999;
(b)he is acting in response to a genuine emergency; and
(c)it is unsafe or impracticable for him to cease driving in order to make the call
Crossflow Kid said:
Look at it this way.....
Drinkers will be over the limit after one pint, which effectively means abstaining.
But the limit hasn't been set to absolute zero.....that'd be like the Gubnent controlling what you can or can't do.
Geddit now?
FFS! There are some genuine examples of excessive government control in our lives. This is not one of them.Drinkers will be over the limit after one pint, which effectively means abstaining.
But the limit hasn't been set to absolute zero.....that'd be like the Gubnent controlling what you can or can't do.
Geddit now?
cootuk said:
Possibly a diabetic as an alternative answer, in which case getting police/paramedics to them might be lifesaving.
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/7107333/dui-like-war...
I fooking hope not, although to the outside world your symptoms could look like the effects of drink, your mind still works, you get plenty of warning symptoms, and if you're one of the unlucky few to not be able to pick up on those, you'll struggle to get/keep your licence.http://www.8newsnow.com/story/7107333/dui-like-war...
Nigel Worc's said:
stargazer30 said:
Might not have been drunk. Diabetics act like drunk drivers it they start to crash (as in sugar levels).
No we don't, and anyone that uses that as an excuse just causes the rest of up agro with DVLA.Nigel Worc's said:
No we don't, and anyone that uses that as an excuse just causes the rest of up agro with DVLA.
I turned up to an RTC once and driver completely out of it, I swear he was drunk. Did a breath test and 0. He could barely stand, talk and focus, exactly like a drunk person. He then got even worse and I called an ambulance and turns out diabetic in a very severe episode and they blue lighted him to hospital - it does happen.In regards to calling 999 if possible please call 999 and follow the vehicle and update us on where it's going, it's all very well saying car L123 MNO is heading north on the A1 but that doesn't help when he turns off! If you are able please safely follow and call 999 until officers arrive.
stargazer30 said:
Nigel Worc's said:
stargazer30 said:
Might not have been drunk. Diabetics act like drunk drivers it they start to crash (as in sugar levels).
No we don't, and anyone that uses that as an excuse just causes the rest of up agro with DVLA.They cause problems for the good ones amongst us.
chrisgtx said:
The thing is though,lowering the existing drinkdrive limit won't stop this type of person form drink driving.
They don't even care about the current limi!
I'm not aware that lowering the drink drive limit is going to help anyone who isn't interested in an anti car stance.They don't even care about the current limi!
2DDav said:
See I wasnt overly sure as to whether you should or shouldnt.
I turned up to a scene when in the Police after a drink driver had crashed in to a car headon so hard, the baby in the other car, landed 50 metres away from the accident, in its car seat but dead.Call it in every time.
Op You are in the wrong as well here. Why not speak to the bloke, offer to drive him home and if he refuses take his keys and call the police. I'd have knocked on the window and asked him if he had 30 seconds cos I have a question.
Instead you let him drive off, then pulled over and called the police. To make yourself feel clever you came on the Internet and told some randoms.
Instead you let him drive off, then pulled over and called the police. To make yourself feel clever you came on the Internet and told some randoms.
Tribal Chestnut said:
Offer to drive him home? Really??
When I was a printer, one chap offered to drive a drunk home in his car one Christmas eve. En route the owner/passenger vomited into the glove locker of a fairly new car. The friend was a bit repelled but carried on. When he got to the chap's house, the wife accused him of getting hubby drunk, on xmas eve and with the kids in bed. He tried to protest but the women started screaming. He tossed the keys to her and went home, via a lift from another chap at the do.Three or four days later the chap gets in his car to drive to work. It's a bit smelly but then it hadn't been used since the dive home. He switched on the heater, a pipe of which ran directly behind the glove locker and off he went.
You can probably write the rest.
There was a bit of an argument when he got to work, with the good Samaritan, but that's the way it goes.
I'm tee-total so am forever running drunks home. I once had vomit down the back of my best suit and all down the left sleeve. I could not lift it up onto the steering wheel as it would drip onto my trousers so I left my hand on the gear lever. Happy times.
Tribal Chestnut said:
Offer to drive him home? Really??
Yes. I've done it. Both for friends and for randoms who I've seen getting into cars. Personally I think that the harm of drunk driving is the damage it can do to the offender and to others. If that harm can be taken away then it's resolved. I also know several doormen who regularly take people's keys and tell them to pick them up the next day. That might be dodgy legally but morally it is spot on. What would you rather they do wait for people to drive off and then call the police? Best case the person is banned, worst they kill someone. Both negative outcomes. By giving someone a lift you are making the situation positive. Mind you my wife used to work on a Cystic Fibrosis ward, and whilst it is a very sad medical issue which usually kills them, the one advantage was that most could drink 8 pints and be completely sober.
Bit sad when they get banned from driving when 5 times over the limit (I kid you not) and actually they are fully sober. More sad when they die at 24 because they couldn't get a heart/lung transplant, because not enough people are dying on the roads, due to the over policing of the drink drive laws.
Bit sad when they get banned from driving when 5 times over the limit (I kid you not) and actually they are fully sober. More sad when they die at 24 because they couldn't get a heart/lung transplant, because not enough people are dying on the roads, due to the over policing of the drink drive laws.
Nigel Worc's said:
chrisgtx said:
The thing is though,lowering the existing drinkdrive limit won't stop this type of person form drink driving.
They don't even care about the current limi!
I'm not aware that lowering the drink drive limit is going to help anyone who isn't interested in an anti car stance.They don't even care about the current limi!
mph1977 said:
Nigel Worc's said:
chrisgtx said:
The thing is though,lowering the existing drinkdrive limit won't stop this type of person form drink driving.
They don't even care about the current limi!
I'm not aware that lowering the drink drive limit is going to help anyone who isn't interested in an anti car stance.They don't even care about the current limi!
mph1977 said:
Nigel Worc's said:
chrisgtx said:
The thing is though,lowering the existing drinkdrive limit won't stop this type of person form drink driving.
They don't even care about the current limi!
I'm not aware that lowering the drink drive limit is going to help anyone who isn't interested in an anti car stance.They don't even care about the current limi!
You do know that an accident involved with someone with marginal alcohol levels will may well of happened with zero levels?
You do know that the majority of fatal incidents are cased by sober people! ,which, as a squishy vulnerable road user, terrifies me.
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