Visit to Police Station. Advice please...

Visit to Police Station. Advice please...

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benm3evo

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383 posts

182 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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Apparently there was an off duty Police Officer present. I'm not saying this is or isn't the person who reported me.

The PC I spoke to also said he had or could contact another witness to back up the allegation (over taking the car with hazards on). As I said, that made no sense either as the invisible car then turned into a person slowing traffic down.

I haven't got enough experience of stuff like this to know whether I should have done something different, i.e. gone through the official interview, but as soon as the off duty officer was mentioned I knew I was screwed.

I'm damn sure had this been in my Insignia not an eye lid would have been batted.

I also asked if this could all be down to me upsetting someone in the Pub etc (which I haven't) or a jealousy thing & them looking for an excuse to drop me in it, & I was told it does happen apparently.

I'm not getting in a stress about it, I know I've done nothing wrong. There are always going to be some sad loser(s) that have nothing better to do. The Officer I spoke to said he thought I was a decent chap & he could tell I'm not the type of person to do anything daft intentionally (small consolation).

I suggested that if any feedback is given, they might want to suggest the road is closed in future or warning signs are put up or there are 'official looking' people in high-viz vests at the back possibly? All of which I would think is common sense if you're going to walk down one lane of a main road, which has large pathways on either side I might add.....I'm sure this suggestion will go no further.

First reaction was to take the M3 off the road for a year but I'm almost admitting some guilt by doing that so I'm just going to be extra careful & try not to upset anyone....for a year anyway!

Cheers.

benm3evo

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383 posts

182 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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Anonamoose said:
I don't mean to be funny but from reading your side if the incident you drove through the middle of a rememberence day parade?

I'm not surprised someone complained, they obviously thought you were incredibly disrespectful for doing so (even if you didn't mean to) they just saw some idiot in a car that couldn't wait.

I wouldn't take it that someone has it 'in for you or your car' just that someone or some people thought you were a disrespectful tt and therefore made a complaint, obviously a bit of embellishment to try and make sure you were taught a lesson.

The policeman probably agreed with them hence the S59.
You may be right, but...

Without anyone knowing the road this was on it was impossible to tell there was any type of parade going on. There was an initial small group of people in the road, I couldn't see around them before I was level with them...& even then I could only see a few more people walking up the road, nothing offical looking.

Obviously with hind sight (or a bloody sign!!) I would have simply turned around but I got to the 'point of no return' so had to wait for the next turning a few yards on before I could escape.

Cheers.

The business end of the Parade was another 100M down the road & I got nowhere near that.

benm3evo

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383 posts

182 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Once again, we assuming the OP's account is the complete truth. I am not saying it's not, but if the OP was perhaps a little more aggressive than we are made to believe, he is unlikely to say so on here. If he dropped it down a couple of gears and floored it through the middle of the parade, it would put a different spin on things. Once again OP, I'm not saying your account isn't spot on, but this is another example where we could debate how much of a farce the police actions were all day, but without being there, or at least being privy to all the facts, we can't really judge either way.
Yes, I'm not naive (spelling!?) This is a Public forum so not everything on here is gospel.

All I can say is I know I did nothing wrong in my view. Others might have seen it differently. I've tried to put across my version of events as accurately as possible. Perhaps a key thing is this wasn't on a dual track or whatever with good visibility so you can't see miles ahead. What angered me most is the James Bond style invisible car as the allegation was based around me over-taking it!

I also understand the car sounds louder than average so just from sound it might appear to be going faster....but not sure that really applies at 20mph & then down to walking pace.

Anyway, live & learn! Cheers

benm3evo

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383 posts

182 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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mikerons88 said:
You think someone might be jealous of your car???
That's probably not likely to be honest. It is only an M3 so nothing exotic but all kinds of things having been going through my head when you can get reported for something like this

benm3evo

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383 posts

182 months

Saturday 27th December 2014
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Just to add, I had no problem with the Police Officer who I saw (& gave me the S59!) He was a nice bloke & was also into his cars so had a decent chat with him. He also seemed to be on my side but had been advised to deal with it this way. Whatever, no hard feelings to him. I didn't really know whether to try & argue the S59 or not as I don't have enough experience, never even heard of it before.

I suppose I feel hard done by by the System as a complaint (with in-accurate details) has been lodged by someone because, in their opinion, I've driven inconsiderately & that was that.

I just hope my next new Thread is not "Car seized under S59"!

Cheers.

benm3evo

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383 posts

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Sunday 28th December 2014
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PLEASEDELETE said:
What a pity you didn't take the advice you were given. IF you'd engaged a solicitor HE would have contacted the police on your behalf, and immediately obtained full disclosure. HE'D then have listened to your version. HE'D then have told them you hadn't the slightest intention of going to the station. Next the police would have made a choice. Suck it up and move on, or arrest and interview with a view to charge. If the latter, interview would have been in his presence. If there was a charge, the matter would have then been given to the CPS to consider.

If I was you I'd get a solicitor to raise a complaint against the police involved. Your S59 will end up being withdrawn if you do.

Edited by PLEASEDELETE on Sunday 28th December 17:53
Yeah, I think I got caught off guard & just tried to get out of there as quick as possible.

I think I should have probably thought about it before 'accepting' the S59 & then perhaps opted to go through the formal interview process & then have the Solicitor present.

Oh well, put it down to experience I suppose.

Cheers

benm3evo

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383 posts

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Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Nick Grant said:
Back to the OP, if indeed he did pass a car that was rolling along at the back of the parade with it's hazzards going I hope he asked the officer if that driver had also been prosecuted. I'm guessing it was a single carriageway by the description.

"116

Hazard warning lights. These may be used when your vehicle is stationary, to warn that it is temporarily obstructing traffic. Never use them as an excuse for dangerous or illegal parking. You MUST NOT use hazard warning lights while driving or being towed unless you are on a motorway or unrestricted dual carriageway and you need to warn drivers behind you of a hazard or obstruction ahead. Only use them for long enough to ensure that your warning has been observed.
Law RVLR reg 27"
Bugger, my lack of knowledge letting me down again!

The more I read the more I wish I'd politely declined the S59 & had the formal interview.

Cheers, Ben