Visit to Police Station. Advice please...

Visit to Police Station. Advice please...

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AGK

1,601 posts

155 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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I got one of these last week.

Turned out to be nothing but a box ticking exercise since someone had phoned up to complain.

All discussed and sorted over the phone in 5 minutes.

Eclassy

1,201 posts

122 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Elroy Blue said:
I think they must be the Eastern European version of the Sopranos.
UKIP card carrying member by any chance?

TankRizzo

7,269 posts

193 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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benm3evo said:
Forgot to say, the PC did say I wouldn't be under caution & could leave whenever I want....if that makes any difference!
Well, that is true, up until the point where the constable decides on the basis of what you've said in interview that you can't leave of your own free will, and places you under arrest!



Elroy Blue

8,688 posts

192 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Eclassy said:
UKIP card carrying member by any chance?
No strangely enough. Just like others, someone who is a tad fed up reading the fantasy tales you post. Can I suggest you get a room with Sec136man and discuss Police corruption amongst yourselves. You can send each other ten year old Daily Wail links to save them being posted on here.

benm3evo

Original Poster:

383 posts

181 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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TankRizzo said:
Well, that is true, up until the point where the constable decides on the basis of what you've said in interview that you can't leave of your own free will, and places you under arrest!
Knowing me & the saying 'Think before you speak' is lost on me, I better take my toothbrush!

Hopefully having the duty solicitor will help save me dropping myself in it somehow

TVR1

5,463 posts

225 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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OP, if it isn't anything to worry about, why not call back and ask him to pop around to your house for 'a chat'

Why should you be inconvenienced? It's his job to do these things, not yours. His response should dictate your position on legal advice or not.

If you appear at the Station and have a taped interview, you WILL be cautioned. Make no mistake. You are being asked to have an interview for evidentiary purposes. Therefore you will be cautioned.


TVR1

5,463 posts

225 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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OP, if it isn't anything to worry about, why not call back and ask him to pop around to your house for 'a chat'

Why should you be inconvenienced? It's his job to do these things, not yours. His response should dictate your position on legal advice or not.

If you appear at the Station and have a taped interview, you WILL be cautioned. Make no mistake. You are being asked to have an interview for evidentiary purposes. Therefore you will be cautioned.


Eclassy

1,201 posts

122 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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benm3evo said:
Knowing me & the saying 'Think before you speak' is lost on me, I better take my toothbrush!

Hopefully having the duty solicitor will help save me dropping myself in it somehow
LoL

The duty solicitor scheme is a fantastic idea and it must have saved thousands of people from implicating themselves. You will have a private chat with the solicitor in a private no video or audio recording room before any interview.

When I was arrested, I was asked if I wanted a solicitor. With tears in my eyes I said no. Being my first experience, I assumed asking for a "lawyer" implied I was guilty. The duty sergeant was kind enough and told me I would be better off with a solicitor so I changed my answer to yes.

Thankfully I didnt require the services of the silicitor as the police later realised I wasnt the person they wanted and I was released without charge before I had the chance to speak with one.

TankRizzo

7,269 posts

193 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Question to the SPL BiB: How many of these voluntary interviews end up with someone incriminating themselves into a charge, rather than ending NFA? Is it many or hardly any?

I understand the reason for the request, but I'd be very dubious of attending a recorded interview where I was a potential suspect in an offence. Surely if there is incriminating evidence then arrest should take place?

benm3evo

Original Poster:

383 posts

181 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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TVR1 said:
OP, if it isn't anything to worry about, why not call back and ask him to pop around to your house for 'a chat'

Why should you be inconvenienced? It's his job to do these things, not yours. His response should dictate your position on legal advice or not.

If you appear at the Station and have a taped interview, you WILL be cautioned. Make no mistake. You are being asked to have an interview for evidentiary purposes. Therefore you will be cautioned.
Well I did say shall I come in or are you coming to my house (they'd been twice & missed me) & he said if I didn't mind coming in then could I as it saves them writing everything down in notes.

To be honest I was already thinking of a Solicitor so was already thinking I'd be going into the Station...

benm3evo

Original Poster:

383 posts

181 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Eclassy said:
LoL

The duty solicitor scheme is a fantastic idea and it must have saved thousands of people from implicating themselves. You will have a private chat with the solicitor in a private no video or audio recording room before any interview.
Thanks, that's useful info as I wasn't sure how it would work.....& I'm pleased to hear it worked out ok in your experience

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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TankRizzo said:
Question to the SPL BiB: How many of these voluntary interviews end up with someone incriminating themselves into a charge, rather than ending NFA? Is it many or hardly any?

I understand the reason for the request, but I'd be very dubious of attending a recorded interview where I was a potential suspect in an offence. Surely if there is incriminating evidence then arrest should take place?
Very rarely in my experience has someone "implicated" themselves. Often they admit to something they have done.
When I'm interviewing someone, I'm doing it for a specific offence. I'm not fishing to see what else is out there.
This is why I laugh at some of the comments on here about how you're almost certainly going to end up doing a life stretch for something you havent done, if you don't have a brief.
If you've done something wrong, exiect to be caught out. If you haven't, you shouldnt have anything to worry about.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Elroy Blue said:
No strangely enough. Just like others, someone who is a tad fed up reading the fantasy tales you post. Can I suggest you get a room with Sec136man and discuss Police corruption amongst yourselves. You can send each other ten year old Daily Wail links to save them being posted on here.
Is there room for the Hawk in there?

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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benm3evo said:
TVR1 said:
OP, if it isn't anything to worry about, why not call back and ask him to pop around to your house for 'a chat'

Why should you be inconvenienced? It's his job to do these things, not yours. His response should dictate your position on legal advice or not.

If you appear at the Station and have a taped interview, you WILL be cautioned. Make no mistake. You are being asked to have an interview for evidentiary purposes. Therefore you will be cautioned.
Well I did say shall I come in or are you coming to my house (they'd been twice & missed me) & he said if I didn't mind coming in then could I as it saves them writing everything down in notes.

To be honest I was already thinking of a Solicitor so was already thinking I'd be going into the Station...
This suggests its going to be a taped interview then. If the OP was interviewed at home theyd have to record the interview by hand.

TankRizzo

7,269 posts

193 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Very rarely in my experience has someone "implicated" themselves. Often they admit to something they have done.
When I'm interviewing someone, I'm doing it for a specific offence. I'm not fishing to see what else is out there.
This is why I laugh at some of the comments on here about how you're almost certainly going to end up doing a life stretch for something you havent done, if you don't have a brief.
If you've done something wrong, exiect to be caught out. If you haven't, you shouldnt have anything to worry about.
I see, that's illuminating - cheers.

Martin_M

2,071 posts

227 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Bigends said:
benm3evo said:
TVR1 said:
OP, if it isn't anything to worry about, why not call back and ask him to pop around to your house for 'a chat'

Why should you be inconvenienced? It's his job to do these things, not yours. His response should dictate your position on legal advice or not.

If you appear at the Station and have a taped interview, you WILL be cautioned. Make no mistake. You are being asked to have an interview for evidentiary purposes. Therefore you will be cautioned.
Well I did say shall I come in or are you coming to my house (they'd been twice & missed me) & he said if I didn't mind coming in then could I as it saves them writing everything down in notes.

To be honest I was already thinking of a Solicitor so was already thinking I'd be going into the Station...
This suggests its going to be a taped interview then. If the OP was interviewed at home theyd have to record the interview by hand.
This

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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TankRizzo said:
I see, that's illuminating - cheers.
No problem. It's not to say that others won't go poking around for anything they can find, but generally speaking, most want to get in there, ask the questions and get the hell out again.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Very rarely in my experience has someone "implicated" themselves. Often they admit to something they have done.
When I'm interviewing someone, I'm doing it for a specific offence. I'm not fishing to see what else is out there.
This is why I laugh at some of the comments on here about how you're almost certainly going to end up doing a life stretch for something you havent done, if you don't have a brief.
If you've done something wrong, exiect to be caught out. If you haven't, you shouldnt have anything to worry about.
If only Christopher Jefferies had been given such wise advice, he wouldn't have bothered wasting all that time with a solicitor. He could have rested secure in the knowledge that with nothing to hide he had nothing to fear.

benm3evo

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383 posts

181 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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OK, a penny has just dropped & I think I have worked out what this is all about.

On the date in question I was driving back into my Village on the Sunday morning & came across a number of people (20 or so I'd say) walking in the road on my side. I remember thinking WTF & slowed down from 30MPH & went over the other side of the road to pass them but then, I'd say about 100M further on, I saw there was a March for Rememberance Day.

I remember thinking st, I'm now a bit stuck as I had nowhere to go so I slowed to idling speed (walking pace) & was moving along with the crowd until I could get to a turning left 50M further on.

When I got to this turning (indicating) I literally had to stop as the people walking just carried on walking across the junction. Once they'd passed I carried on & thought no more of it.

Now I'm sure this is where the complaint will have come from. I'm also sure I did nothing wrong. In hindsight, if I'd have seen the March further down the road I'd have waited at the back of the crowd rather then getting stuck in the group of people at the back.

My Village is a bit 'cliquey' & more 'mature' so I'm sure the fact I have a 'sporty' car that is slightly loud doesn't go down well....

Anyway, the bottom line is the complaint has been made & I'm off down the Station.

Does anyone have any further input on this now? Happy to answer any questions or take any criticism if it's due!

Thanks

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Will probably be an interview for driving without due care and attention. I still wouldn't worry too much, but it will be an interview, and so ask for the brief.