Detective Constable jailed for PtCoJ over speeding ticket
Discussion
Quinny said:
Whenever I read about cases like this, I can only but wonder how many other times the officer in question played with the rules in an attempt to get what he wanted
I wonder similar things. Then I see he got caught - as an insider I would have assumed he would have known how to bend the rules. But he didn't and has suffered serious consequences, so I conclude he is not only bent, but not good at it. Thus he won't do it again.It's pricks like this that make my job harder. Money spent investigating him could have been much better spent elsewhere (and for the avoidance of doubt, I'm not condoning his behaviour - I mean the money could've been better spent on investigations where victims needed help). He should've taken the ticket and been done with it. Cock.
Dibble said:
He should've taken the ticket and been done with it. Cock.
He could have attended a SAC and gone with a 'Yeah, even police officers do get done for speeding' line, but perhaps I've been reading too many police PR puff pieces in my local press or police Tweets.Or would that be classed as turning a negative into a positive?
Should he really lose his pension rights?
If he does is his real sentence not much harsher and longer lasting than what the court handed down.
I must be going soft in my old age as I think that loss of employment and 3 months not dropping the soap should be the end of it and he and his dependants should not be punished into old age for this.
Just my opinion formed from what I have read here of course.
If he does is his real sentence not much harsher and longer lasting than what the court handed down.
I must be going soft in my old age as I think that loss of employment and 3 months not dropping the soap should be the end of it and he and his dependants should not be punished into old age for this.
Just my opinion formed from what I have read here of course.
Dibble said:
It's pricks like this that make my job harder. Money spent investigating him could have been much better spent elsewhere (and for the avoidance of doubt, I'm not condoning his behaviour - I mean the money could've been better spent on investigations where victims needed help). He should've taken the ticket and been done with it. Cock.
To show such poor judgement over such a small issue is a crazy way to go about life......job lost, prison sentence, reputation in tatters, for nothing really
But we see everyday on sp&l folk getting in a lather over a speeding ticket
... I don't get it..... It's no reflection on ones driving ability, and it's such a minor offence as to not warrant a second thought once the fine is paid
gruffalo said:
Should he really lose his pension rights?
As I understand it, his loss of pension rights as they put it, is down to the fact that he can't contribute anymore....I can't see how they can just forget about what he's already paid in..... I suspect it'll just be frozen, and he'll get a much reduced pension when he's entiltled to take it....
The above could be total BS though
Quinny said:
To show such poor judgement over such a small issue is a crazy way to go about life......job lost, prison sentence, reputation in tatters, for nothing really
But we see everyday on sp&l folk getting in a lather over a speeding ticket... I don't get it..... It's no reflection on ones driving ability, and it's such a minor offence as to not warrant a second thought once the fine is paid
Such stupidity is hardly unique to police officers. What is remarkable is that after 11 years in the job he must have dealt with hundreds of offenders who have ruined their lives for no sensible reason so you would think that he would think before acting. But we see everyday on sp&l folk getting in a lather over a speeding ticket
... I don't get it..... It's no reflection on ones driving ability, and it's such a minor offence as to not warrant a second thought once the fine is paidI'm with you: speeding is a regulation. It is a nothing job. One wonders if totting up was the source of such stupid behaviour.
On the other hand, the service is well rid of the bloke.
Following on from another poster's comments, it is wrong that his pension should be part of the punishment, but that is part of the function of it. Leave it early, for whatever reason, and it costs.
More to the point: should someone who is injured during their service and unable to continue working be penalised into old age? Let's start on the victims who had no choice first before protecting idiots from their actions.
Derek Smith said:
I'm with you: speeding is a regulation. It is a nothing job. One wonders if totting up was the source of such stupid behaviour.
Even toting up isn't the end of the world..... (I've been there)...it's not a comfortable position to be in but whose fault is it anyway
I found the solution to be quite simple
Just modify your behaviour for a while
Mill Wheel said:
I have followed this case for a while - I wondered about the £60 fine reported in the media - how long has speeding been £100?
August '13.These cases take a while to come to court, so he could easily have been due a £60FPN at the time he started the whole saga.
<quick google> Yep, the original photo was March '13.
Quinny said:
As I understand it, his loss of pension rights as they put it, is down to the fact that he can't contribute anymore....
I can't see how they can just forget about what he's already paid in..... I suspect it'll just be frozen, and he'll get a much reduced pension when he's entiltled to take it....
The above could be total BS though
I understand if it is frozen and so he gets a watered down pension due to having not effectively purchased all the qualifying years, or would he end up with nothing?I can't see how they can just forget about what he's already paid in..... I suspect it'll just be frozen, and he'll get a much reduced pension when he's entiltled to take it....
The above could be total BS though
General question to those better informed than I.
gruffalo said:
Quinny said:
As I understand it, his loss of pension rights as they put it, is down to the fact that he can't contribute anymore....
I can't see how they can just forget about what he's already paid in..... I suspect it'll just be frozen, and he'll get a much reduced pension when he's entiltled to take it....
The above could be total BS though
I understand if it is frozen and so he gets a watered down pension due to having not effectively purchased all the qualifying years, or would he end up with nothing?I can't see how they can just forget about what he's already paid in..... I suspect it'll just be frozen, and he'll get a much reduced pension when he's entiltled to take it....
The above could be total BS though
General question to those better informed than I.
What an idiot.
ED209 said:
He will keep is pension but will loose out massively because he will miss out on the most valuable few years of contributions, the final salary link to his pension will be lost and he will not be able to draw it until 60 years old (deferred pension) instead of the date he would have been eligible to retire. He will loose out on an absolute fortune.
What an idiot.
This is what normally happens.What an idiot.
The effect is that the pension, for someone with 11 years in, is worthless. He retains just his contributions, without any interest. Part of the function of the pension was to keep officers in post for the full 30 years. If they left before their final two years, much of the value would be lost.
Derek Smith said:
speeding is a regulation. It is a nothing job.
There was talk of speeding becoming as unacceptable as Drink Driving. All that the Police and their Camera Partnerships have done with their pursuit of low level offenders is to make a prosecution for it common place. They even call it minor offending and it has all been trivialised.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff