Hit pedestrian - help

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Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

127 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
Oh, and she'll get a bill for the ambulance too.
Does this actually happen? I had an RTC several years ago and was told afterwards that I'd probably get a bill for the ambo. Nothing ever turned up though.

mph1977

12,467 posts

167 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
clarkmagpie said:
Then I will ask how earth she never saw him make his kamikaze dash across the road.
That's why she'll be getting done for careless driving.

Oh, and she'll get a bill for the ambulance too.
her insurers will get a bill from the NHS for a nominal sum towards treatment this is not paid to the Ambulance service, the A+E doctor or any of the other tales that are told.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/recover...

hman

7,487 posts

193 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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DONT LET HER GO WITHOUT A SOLICITOR

I did this (without a solicitor in the interview) in the same but worse (RIP pedestrian) situation and thats when the st storm really started.

Make sure she seems remorseful of the incident (in black and white terms she ran a pedestrian down) and doesnt ask how she will be able to claim off the pedestrian - that will surely fail the police attitude test.

Good luck, and defer the appointment until your solicitor is available. The statement given can and will be used against her.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Yazar said:
Why is she taking a colleague- better qualified? as I would want to be there personally.
OP would go along with his wife but then he'd have to bill the OAP for time taken away from work. smile

Jokes aside, glad the old chap, and your wife were okay.

Zombie

1,587 posts

194 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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clarkmagpie said:
I was initially thinking that she had just clobbered him properly and the car would have been a mess.
That doesn't look like its the case.
Seems more like a glancing blow but again, will find out more and update accordingly.

For the sake of £50 excess then it really isn't worth pursuing.
Chalked down to just experience, one of those things.
Hopefully the chaps condition doesn't deteriorate and that will be the end of matters.

The next problem is that Mrs C seems very calm and collected at moment.
Se usually is about pretty much everything.
I don't that this will dent her confidence behind the wheel, or change her driving style, she is actually pretty good.
What is wrong with you?

Your OH has just run over a 77 year old pensioner. Regarldless of who is to blame, his condition should be your no 1 concern. Not your car, and certainly not a 50 quid excess for your fking windscreen!!!

Then you should be considering the guilt your OH will most likely (hopefully) be feeling.

Then, perhaps, what comes next in terms of a police interest.

davepoth

29,395 posts

198 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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hman said:
DONT LET HER GO WITHOUT A SOLICITOR

I did this (without a solicitor in the interview) in the same but worse (RIP pedestrian) situation and thats when the st storm really started.

Make sure she seems remorseful of the incident (in black and white terms she ran a pedestrian down) and doesnt ask how she will be able to claim off the pedestrian - that will surely fail the police attitude test.

Good luck, and defer the appointment until your solicitor is available. The statement given can and will be used against her.
Precisely this. "It was busy" = distracted while at the wheel, for example. The full extent of the old guy's injuries aren't known, and if the worst happens and it ends up as death by careless driving she might drop herself right in it. Lawyer up.

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,910 posts

215 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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This has happened to two people I know.

One was my ex-girlfriend...a chap stepped out at a set of traffic lights in a 50mph limit, which were green in her favour. Made a mess of her MX5, but made an even bigger mess of him. He did survive, but had an awful lot of injuries and was in and out of hospital for a long time. The Police found her completely absolved of all blame and nothing happened to her. Her insurance replaced the car.

The other was a mate. A chap stepped out in front of him in a 40mph limit, from between two parked cars. He died at the scene. The Police absolved my friend from any blame - e.g. he wasn't speeding, he braked when expected, the car was all up together etc. and all his paperwork was in order.

There was just one minor detail - he was over the prescribed drink drive limit. 12 months inside - cut to 6 on appeal yikes


pork911

7,087 posts

182 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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davepoth said:
hman said:
DONT LET HER GO WITHOUT A SOLICITOR

I did this (without a solicitor in the interview) in the same but worse (RIP pedestrian) situation and thats when the st storm really started.

Make sure she seems remorseful of the incident (in black and white terms she ran a pedestrian down) and doesnt ask how she will be able to claim off the pedestrian - that will surely fail the police attitude test.

Good luck, and defer the appointment until your solicitor is available. The statement given can and will be used against her.
Precisely this. "It was busy" = distracted while at the wheel, for example. The full extent of the old guy's injuries aren't known, and if the worst happens and it ends up as death by careless driving she might drop herself right in it. Lawyer up.
why? it's not as if the OP's certainty started to crack within 2 hours or anything wink

Centurion07

10,381 posts

246 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Zombie said:
clarkmagpie said:
I was initially thinking that she had just clobbered him properly and the car would have been a mess.
That doesn't look like its the case.
Seems more like a glancing blow but again, will find out more and update accordingly.

For the sake of £50 excess then it really isn't worth pursuing.
Chalked down to just experience, one of those things.
Hopefully the chaps condition doesn't deteriorate and that will be the end of matters.

The next problem is that Mrs C seems very calm and collected at moment.
Se usually is about pretty much everything.
I don't that this will dent her confidence behind the wheel, or change her driving style, she is actually pretty good.
What is wrong with you?

Your OH has just run over a 77 year old pensioner. Regarldless of who is to blame, his condition should be your no 1 concern. Not your car, and certainly not a 50 quid excess for your fking windscreen!!!

Then you should be considering the guilt your OH will most likely (hopefully) be feeling.

Then, perhaps, what comes next in terms of a police interest.
Can OP or his missus do anything about the old guy's condition then? rolleyes

pork911

7,087 posts

182 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Centurion07 said:
Can OP or his missus do anything about the old guy's condition then? rolleyes
are you suggesting they finish the job off?

Zombie

1,587 posts

194 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Centurion07 said:
Can OP or his missus do anything about the old guy's condition then? rolleyes
Of course not. But the OP's reaction has been to cover their own collective arses. If I was in the same situation I wouldn't be seeking advice about insurance or seeking advice as to how to apportion blame in what sounds like an ambiguous case. It demonstrates a lack of empathy that is borderline psychotic.

The thread title;

Hit pedestrian - help

Says it all.

The OP doesn't want help with dealing with the aftermath, he wants help with a cracked windscreen and other associated damage to his car.

His post's aren't of the tone, "Thank god my OH only clipped the pensioner", they're of the "thank god, she only clipped the doddery, senile, myopic, old tramp otherwise I'd need a new bonnet too. Fortunately his head is obviously frail and has only bounced of the screen once instead of twice and not off the roof too.... I've almost got a good chance of sueing his family for endangering my OH's life!"

There's no empathy for him, his family and appears to a similar lack of empathy for his OH, look at the timeline:

OH rings him, she's OK. but car is bent. Oh dear what do we do now?

-Increased insurance premiums, what about the excess?
-Oh god the OH could get points for this!!!
-But it's not her fault is it?
-Can we sue the family? The carer? The NHS? The council?
-Definitely not us to blame, Money to be had here, there is...

He needs a fundamental perspective adjustment IMO.


Edited by Zombie on Wednesday 17th December 01:41

Centurion07

10,381 posts

246 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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pork911 said:
Centurion07 said:
Can OP or his missus do anything about the old guy's condition then? rolleyes
are you suggesting they finish the job off?
Yes. That's clearly what I said.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

246 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Zombie said:
Centurion07 said:
Can OP or his missus do anything about the old guy's condition then? rolleyes
Of course not. But the OP's reaction has been to cover their own collective arses. If I was in the same situation I wouldn't be seeking advice about insurance or seeking advice as to how to apportion blame in what is clearly an ambiguous case. It demonstrates a lack of empathy that is borderline psychotic.

The thread title;

Hit pedestrian - help

Says it all.

The OP doesn't want help with dealing with the aftermath, he wants help with a cracked windscreen and other associated damage to his car.

His post's aren't of the tone, "Thank god my OH only clipped the pensioner", they're of the "thank god, she only clipped the doddery, senile, myopic, old tramp otherwise I'd need a new bonnet too. Fortunately his head is obviously frail and has only bounced of the screen once instead of twice and not off the roof too.... I've almost got a good chance of sueing his family for endangering my OH's life!"

He needs a fundamental perspective adjustment IMO.

Edited by Zombie on Wednesday 17th December 01:22
I guess you missed the posts stating that he seems absolutely fine, walking and talking and that his missus has more than one witness which will , I presume since he mentioned them, confirm that the old guy walked straight out in front of her, so sounds like an open and shut case to me. No injuries to be concerned about, no ambiguity whatsoever as to who's fault it was.

At no point has the OP said anything like "stupid old codger walking out in the road", so I will assume it's a given that him & his missus are both fairly relieved that he didn't suffer any serious harm, regardless of the fact that he hasn't come on here praying for forgiveness from the PH High & Mighty.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

246 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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clarkmagpie said:
He stepped out from drivers side pavement, across 1 lane.
Although I had missed this bit.

Maybe she's not quite as in the clear as you hope OP.

Zombie

1,587 posts

194 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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His missus ran over a pensioner less than 24hrs ago. To state that they're OK is a leap that Superman would probably baulk at.

If someone drove into me (37, 6'7", 110kgs) then yes, the car would probably be in a bit of a state and I probably would be able to proclaim myself as being OK with unwavering confidence, or not, as the case may be.

But a 77 year old? No. There are an infinite number of (very serious) complications that could easily arise and become indirectly life-threatening as a consequence of such an incident.

At this stage, all the OP should be concerned with is whether the victim is 100% in the clear. And not frail, taking warfarin, nursing a graze that won't heal and has every likeyhood of becoming infected, or broken bones / internal injury etc that they're too stoic to admit to.

Edited by Zombie on Wednesday 17th December 02:11

thescamper

920 posts

225 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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OP I'm with you, hopefully the old guy will be fine and what ever you say or do the outcome will be no different. You have concerns about your property being damaged and why shouldn't you. I would inform your insurance company about the incident get the screen fixed and wait out and see what happens.

The hysterical attitude from some posters is their opinion and just like a@seholes everyone has one.

If it turns out that the lazy old boy was at fault then so be it, I don't accept that the pedestrian is always in the right and firmly believe that everyone has a duty for their own care whatever the situation.

hman

7,487 posts

193 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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I can only refer you to my earlier post having been through 2 years of court cases following a vehicle Vs. pedestrian fatal rta.

Be extremely careful how the next steps are approached, the wrong attitude and the wrong answers could see your wife in a very bad situation with the law.

Basically in no way should you even think about pinning any blame on the pedestrian or seeking recompense for the damage to your car - this will not help you one bit.

Edited by hman on Wednesday 17th December 08:23

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,101 posts

164 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Sheepshanks said:
Oh, and she'll get a bill for the ambulance too.
Does this actually happen? I had an RTC several years ago and was told afterwards that I'd probably get a bill for the ambo. Nothing ever turned up though.
I don't believe it happens, either.

A few years ago my car dropped its sump plug on the fast lane of the M25. There was a sound like a stone being thrown up from a wheel, and then huge clouds of grey smoke in my mirrors as the oil exited onto the exhaust. I got over onto the hard shoulder and killed the engine, but there was still a huge puddle of oil growing and threatening to encroach onto the main carriageway - so I dialled 999 (SOS phone not working).

Within 10 minutes the Highways Agency were there, followed by two fire trucks which parked across lane one to protect the HA chaps as they mopped up the oil.

People told me I'd get a bill for the emergency services and the lane closure because it was a mechanical failure and therefore "my liability". The 999 operator had taken my registration and address so they certainly could have sent me a bill, but nothing ever turned up.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=958...


Edited by Dr Mike Oxgreen on Wednesday 17th December 08:22

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Zombie said:
If someone drove into me (37, 6'7", 110kgs) then yes, the car would probably be in a bit of a state and I probably would be able to proclaim myself as being OK
Ooh I'm getting a stiffy

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

177 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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clarkmagpie said:
Well impact was circa 10mph and slowing down.
Guy hit his shoulder and promptly landed on his bottom.
Got back up again.
Talking normally and not in any pain.
Taken to hospital as precaution.
Was in between 2 street lights so on a dark stretch of road.
Busy traffic

She noticed him step out but couldn't stop in time.
He stepped out from drivers side pavement, across 1 lane.
Which I agree looks like a fair bit of time to notice, but dark road and unexpected...

She has to go to the police station tomorrow to give a statement.
She is taking a colleague for support.
Would she be better taking a solicitor?
Hmm. Road coming out of a town centre so presumably 30 or 40mph limit. There was street lighting. Your car presumably has headlights. Elderly pedestrian had time to cross one entire lane before your wife saw him. Not looking like a "no fault" accident from here; poss DWDCA, depending on further info and police attitude.