Noisy Neighbour Advice

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BobSaunders

3,033 posts

155 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Had the same problem in a block of flats so appreciate where you come from OP.

A very promiscuous young lady used to enjoy both sexes and was very vocal about her enjoyment of it. An anonymous letter through her door and placement of signs in the communal hallway, and also banging/bouncing a tennis ball off the ceiling and wall in time with her vocal wailing announcements solved that.. Also improved my back hand.

Another time had two teachers on the top floor of a block of flats who used to have loud parties during half term - i.e. tuesday night 5am.. Figuring out that the house key allowed access to the electricity meter room was a godsend.. Simply i used to flick the power switch to their flat - they never figured it out as i always turned it back on.

Someone did rip out their car tyre valves (honestly not me!) once which left them knocking on doors and unable to figure out why would anyone do it to such lowly paid teachers on half term after an extremely loud all night party.

I will never return to a block of flats. Currently in a terraced house with lovely neighbours.

Wings

5,813 posts

215 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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V8Ford said:
Thanks guys. I'm guessing the council would hold the information on who is the letting agent?
They might be interested to know my flat also stinks of cannabis since these guys moved in.
A check with the Land Registry online will tell you the owner of the flat.

As a landlord I once had a similar noise complaint from a tenant in my ground floor flat, on another of my tenants in a flat above her. The complaint was made through the Council's local environmental officer, and involved them carrying out a noise sound test between both flats, then with a recommendation to the landlord/me for sound insulation between floor/ceiling of flats.

V8Matthew

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2,675 posts

166 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Nyphur said:
From my very limited experience their notice period could well be 2 months, so I'd not bother making life difficult for them.

I'm sure they can easily make your life far more difficult if they know they are getting chucked out.
That's a fair comment I think.

roofer

5,136 posts

211 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Had this many years ago, Reggae into the early hours, until I found the power supply. No more Reggae.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

212 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Get council env health(noise)involved early. log the threats, and other menaces.

spikey78

701 posts

181 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Slightly off topic but what's the situation if the noisy neighbour is the property owner rather than a tenant? I used to live in a flat and the owner occupier family who lived downstairs were very noisy and inconsiderate. Then they exacerbated the problem by tiling the floors throughout the whole flat.
There seemed to be very little I could do, the freeholder/management company weren't much use and the council worse. I asked the neighbours nicely, I shouted at them,I fought fire with fire, I very nearly thumped him once but nothing seemed to work!
I hated that family so much, I used to dread going home and I really, really wanted them to come to some serious harm-but in the end I sold my flat and moved to stop myself going insane/getting arrested

allergictocheese

1,290 posts

113 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Ultimately there's the tort of nuisance, which could be used to injunct the noisy neighbours from continuing their behaviour. That route would be expensive and stressful and really be a last resort once every other option has been exhausted.

_dobbo_

14,372 posts

248 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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BobSaunders said:
I will never return to a block of flats. Currently in a terraced house with lovely neighbours.
Because noisy neighbours either side is different to noisy neighbours above and below? confused

shandyboy

472 posts

154 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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I have a bit of experience on this which hopefully might be useful...

My partner's mum lives alone in a row of houses, the elderly neighbour died and left her house to her cleaner. Nice thing to do, but the cleaner is a bit... rough... had her kids taken into care, has two big dogs, string of boyfriends, etc etc. Lots of late night parties, dogs barking at all hours, partner's mum took it for so long then tried to talk to her about it - not much changed except the thuggy teenage sons started openly laughing at her whenever they passed on the street. Nice.

So she involved the council - they offered to give her an audio monitoring device which she initially refused which was a mistake as it could have greatly sped things up, but I think she didn't really want to go down the official route at first. Anyway, eventually the parties / dogs got so bad the council gave her an out of hours number to ring so they could come and witness it and said if it was later than that then she should ring 101 non-emergency number. The police came out late one night and actually heard the music from their car as they pulled up to the house! They first talked to my mother-in-law and the music mysteriously stopped, then went round to speak to the neighbour, who took an age to answer and then said "oh, sorry officer I was asleep"! They gave details to the council who used this as proof of the noise abuse and gave the Order which if she breaks will land her in court.

Similarly, a week later she received another for the dogs. So to get actual results, the council / official way is the way to go if talking to them does not resolve it completely. Unfortunately it will sour neighbourly relations somewhat!

We also have an apartment above a basement apartment in a nice development which we rent to a tenant. She complained that the apartment below was having several parties a week late at night which was affecting her sleep and her getting up for work in the morning. I asked her to keep a record of the disturbances and to mention it to the other apartment if she felt able to. I contacted the management company - several times in the end. The tenant didn't really keep great records so I couldn't involve the council, and the management company said they had written to the apartment making the noise but as they owned the apartment that was about all they could do. I brought to their attention the deeds and covenants of the apartments which states that no noise was allowed that would be audible to other apartments between 11pm-7am but the management company said it was "very difficult and costly to enforce" and basically held their hands up. In the end my tenant has resorted to banging on the floor when they make too much noise which seems to have helped!

tl;dr Keep meticulous records and involve the council.

V8Matthew

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2,675 posts

166 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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shandyboy said:
I have a bit of experience on this which hopefully might be useful...

My partner's mum lives alone in a row of houses, the elderly neighbour died and left her house to her cleaner. Nice thing to do, but the cleaner is a bit... rough... had her kids taken into care, has two big dogs, string of boyfriends, etc etc. Lots of late night parties, dogs barking at all hours, partner's mum took it for so long then tried to talk to her about it - not much changed except the thuggy teenage sons started openly laughing at her whenever they passed on the street. Nice.

So she involved the council - they offered to give her an audio monitoring device which she initially refused which was a mistake as it could have greatly sped things up, but I think she didn't really want to go down the official route at first. Anyway, eventually the parties / dogs got so bad the council gave her an out of hours number to ring so they could come and witness it and said if it was later than that then she should ring 101 non-emergency number. The police came out late one night and actually heard the music from their car as they pulled up to the house! They first talked to my mother-in-law and the music mysteriously stopped, then went round to speak to the neighbour, who took an age to answer and then said "oh, sorry officer I was asleep"! They gave details to the council who used this as proof of the noise abuse and gave the Order which if she breaks will land her in court.

Similarly, a week later she received another for the dogs. So to get actual results, the council / official way is the way to go if talking to them does not resolve it completely. Unfortunately it will sour neighbourly relations somewhat!

We also have an apartment above a basement apartment in a nice development which we rent to a tenant. She complained that the apartment below was having several parties a week late at night which was affecting her sleep and her getting up for work in the morning. I asked her to keep a record of the disturbances and to mention it to the other apartment if she felt able to. I contacted the management company - several times in the end. The tenant didn't really keep great records so I couldn't involve the council, and the management company said they had written to the apartment making the noise but as they owned the apartment that was about all they could do. I brought to their attention the deeds and covenants of the apartments which states that no noise was allowed that would be audible to other apartments between 11pm-7am but the management company said it was "very difficult and costly to enforce" and basically held their hands up. In the end my tenant has resorted to banging on the floor when they make too much noise which seems to have helped!

tl;dr Keep meticulous records and involve the council.
Solid advice. I wish I had made it official sooner to be honest. According to the letting agency they're there for another month or so, however they did say they were looking to reduce it. The police rang me today as a follow up and mentioned they would be notifying the letting agent that they had been involved, whether this helps push things along I don't know but any road hopefully the situation will be resolved by May at the latest.

CMYKguru

3,017 posts

175 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Know how you feel.

My neighbours seem like regular family they are paying over £1k rent and never seem to do a days work.

They seem to get up at 4am every weekday and run up and down the stairs before watching a DVD at full volume. It's actually so loud I can tell what film it is within 5 minutes.

Landlord doesn't seem to give a toss. Took him 2 months to come out and fix a leaking pipe which was dripping all over my newly rendered wall.

22Rgt

3,575 posts

127 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Too much pussy footing about going on here. Make these two wkers lives as miserable as you can for the duration. A couple of well built well armed mates, boiler suits balaclavas, strip them naked, out onto the stair case and hand cuff them to it, bend them over and hammer a pineapple well home with a tent peg mallet or insert a CV boot stretcher, bang on everyone elses door for the spectacle...they'll be gone the very same day...

GurneyFlap

19 posts

136 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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22Rgt said:
Too much pussy footing about going on here. Make these two wkers lives as miserable as you can for the duration. A couple of well built well armed mates, boiler suits balaclavas, strip them naked, out onto the stair case and hand cuff them to it, bend them over and hammer a pineapple well home with a tent peg mallet or insert a CV boot stretcher, bang on everyone elses door for the spectacle...they'll be gone the very same day...
Yeah, a pineapple - or if you can get hold of it a Durian.

Jakarta

566 posts

142 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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GurneyFlap said:
Yeah, a pineapple - or if you can get hold of it a Durian.
If you can't get a Durian, a Jack Fruit would be a little more painful.

V8Matthew

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2,675 posts

166 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Jakarta said:
If you can't get a Durian, a Jack Fruit would be a little more painful.
Funnily enough I was on holiday out your way a year or so ago, and whilst in a lift I noticed a sign along the lines of 'No Pets - No Smoking - No Durians' hehe

mcflurry

9,092 posts

253 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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hora said:
Ah a social Landlord. We've got one on our dead end road. Theyve calmed down abit but they still receive a fair amount of cars that park up. Engine running whilst someone pops inside.
In my mind i'd love to drive the car off and park it a couple of streets away. That'll learn 'em wink

selwonk

2,124 posts

225 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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I'd posted earlier in the thread as we were in a similar position. We involved the council and that stopped a fair degree of the problems. Their house then went on the market and eventually sold after 3 years.

The new neighbours moved in a few weeks ago and, unfortunately, have been disturbing us in the middle of the night. To a degree, we accept that we are now very sensitive to any noise, but my argument would be that you should never have to hear ANYTHING from an attached property at 3am in the morning. Unfortunately, they have a habit of slamming doors and moving furniture around at this time.

They also had their first party. It was a family affair; lots of what looked like aunties, uncles, nieces & nephews etc. so we didn't think it would be an issue. It was horrendous. People screaming and shouting until 1am. People leaving and blowing car horns at 1.30am and then the general noise and moving furniture around until 3.30am.

So, my advise to anyone in a similar position has changed. Don't involve the council as this would involve having to declare the problem when you come to sell. Instead, just move. We've now got a clean sheet. We don't need to declare anything on the forms when we come to sell because we have not made any complaint against the new neighbours either to them or to the council. Our house will be going on the market ASAP and I will never again live in anything but a detached property despite being brought up in one.

V8Matthew

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2,675 posts

166 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Sorry to hear about your problems. It's a shame you had to move out because of their behaviour, ultimately though if you're happy in your new place that's what matters.

I intend to sell in a couple of years or so anyway, or perhaps rent the property out, if I do go down the rental route I may do some soundproofing works - although the neighbours do play their music VERY loud the soundproofing is admittedly very poor.

evilmunkey

1,377 posts

159 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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after working for a council department that took calls on these matters, the advice i can give is to keep a noise diary, dates, times , from and to and as much info as possible, these can be used as evidence in court. in the first instance if you call your council they will advise you keep a diary. and to carry on calling them or the after hours team to report as these will also be logged and used as evidence. leeds council were pretty good dealing with this stuff when i was there a few years ago.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Somewhere in the UK. One residence, would be rather disheartening if it were two separate residences with warring neighbours.