£70 parking fine for 15 mins.
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Kentish said:
Hol said:
Kentish said:
A long list of random events that just happen to come together in this occasion
Trust me; it is easily done.
Anyone who cannot relate to the above clearly has no kids or any understanding of what life is like with them.
If you want honesty.Trust me; it is easily done.
Anyone who cannot relate to the above clearly has no kids or any understanding of what life is like with them.
I have kids, I have taken both xmas shopping and can with honesty say that we have never overstayed a parking limit.
Do you think your wife would have acted differently, if the busy xmas time car park was pay and display as follows?:
1 Hour 50p
2 Hours 100p
3 Hours 200p
Over 3 Hours £20.00.
Edited by Hol on Wednesday 14th January 10:37
Well, hats off to you and your exemplary time keeping and time management skills; you are clearly much better parents and all round human beings than we are.
Earlier I said I had mentioned to our local council about the recycling plant which was in Sainsbury's car park, 2 hour etc etc.
This is their response :-
Aberdeen City Council has an agreement to store the recycling banks in the supermarket’s car park but cannot influence the company’s parking policy. Therefore you have to do your recycling at the same time as shopping or use another recycling point. The nearest is at Asda Garthdee.
I apologise that I cannot be more helpful in this instance. Should you have additional questions or need advice, please let me know..
Total crap in my opinion.
This is their response :-
Aberdeen City Council has an agreement to store the recycling banks in the supermarket’s car park but cannot influence the company’s parking policy. Therefore you have to do your recycling at the same time as shopping or use another recycling point. The nearest is at Asda Garthdee.
I apologise that I cannot be more helpful in this instance. Should you have additional questions or need advice, please let me know..
Total crap in my opinion.
Kentish said:
It was the run up to Christmas.
A new huge store.
Bumped into people she knows who chatted a little.
Had to do the entire Xmas shop on her own with 2 kids of 2.5 years and 3.5 years old.
Kids have a strop as they don't wish to be forced into a trolley; they want to walk (usually to be encouraged for development but difficult to then go back on what you usually try to do - confusing to a toddler, no)?
Kids need toilet.
Kids need feeding.
Kids need toilet (one says they don't need to).
Find somewhere to leave shopping.
Pay for shopping.
Get kids to car (one now needs a wee).
Wheel trolley and toe kids back up escalator into store.
Find somewhere to park trolley with "PAID FOR" goods where it won't get stolen.
Visit toilet.
Find trolley that member of staff has moved.
Back to car; load shopping first this time just in case!
Put kids in car; hear those magic words ......."I need a poo"
Get other child out; back to store.
Wait for toilet to be free.
Visit toilet.
Back to car.
Oh sh!t .....3 hrs 15 mins since I parked.
Trust me; it is easily done.
Anyone who cannot relate to the above clearly has no kids or any understanding of what life is like with them.
OP I wouldn't even reply to these people doubting anything about parenting or the time taken being anything but an honest expectation to what’s probably the norm for you and your family.A new huge store.
Bumped into people she knows who chatted a little.
Had to do the entire Xmas shop on her own with 2 kids of 2.5 years and 3.5 years old.
Kids have a strop as they don't wish to be forced into a trolley; they want to walk (usually to be encouraged for development but difficult to then go back on what you usually try to do - confusing to a toddler, no)?
Kids need toilet.
Kids need feeding.
Kids need toilet (one says they don't need to).
Find somewhere to leave shopping.
Pay for shopping.
Get kids to car (one now needs a wee).
Wheel trolley and toe kids back up escalator into store.
Find somewhere to park trolley with "PAID FOR" goods where it won't get stolen.
Visit toilet.
Find trolley that member of staff has moved.
Back to car; load shopping first this time just in case!
Put kids in car; hear those magic words ......."I need a poo"
Get other child out; back to store.
Wait for toilet to be free.
Visit toilet.
Back to car.
Oh sh!t .....3 hrs 15 mins since I parked.
Trust me; it is easily done.
Anyone who cannot relate to the above clearly has no kids or any understanding of what life is like with them.
There’s a typical type PH that always raises its head to constantly poke at the OP and not help in the slightest. I find most that do it exist online to provoke reactions and somehow derive pleasure by derailing a thread and making the OP wish they hadn't bothered.
I've skipped a few pages, but I hope you spoke to the shop manager and escalated it if he/she wasn't helpful. I had a similar bogus invoice issued (not shopping related) and after getting nowhere with the management had to go to POPLA and get it sorted that way.
I have a 2 year old, and another on the way and I can fully understand how the time ticks away when described above. I hope it gets resolved in your favour!
Kentish said:
Hol said:
Kentish said:
A long list of random events that just happen to come together in this occasion
Trust me; it is easily done.
Anyone who cannot relate to the above clearly has no kids or any understanding of what life is like with them.
If you want honesty.Trust me; it is easily done.
Anyone who cannot relate to the above clearly has no kids or any understanding of what life is like with them.
I have kids, I have taken both xmas shopping and can with honesty say that we have never overstayed a parking limit.
Do you think your wife would have acted differently, if the busy xmas time car park was pay and display as follows?:
1 Hour 50p
2 Hours 100p
3 Hours 200p
Over 3 Hours £20.00.
Edited by Hol on Wednesday 14th January 10:37
Well, hats off to you and your exemplary time keeping and time management skills; you are clearly much better parents and all round human beings than we are.
allergictocheese said:
I'm saying that I can't imagine how it could take 3 hours to do one shop in one supermarket.
As it happens, neither can the supermarket, as they've obviously chosen 3 hours as a time limit with considerable headroom so as not to restrict genuine shoppers.
In my stupidly huge local Tesco as well the food bit, there's a hair and beauty section with manicurists and product advisors/consultants, there's a CarPhone Warehouse outlet, large electronics section with TV,s tablets etc, a Costa coffee, another cafe, pharmacy, optician, substantial clothing section with fitting rooms etc. I can easily see how its possible to spend more than 3 hours in there as a single adult, let alone with kids in tow and associated poo trips! As it happens, neither can the supermarket, as they've obviously chosen 3 hours as a time limit with considerable headroom so as not to restrict genuine shoppers.
My wife & daughter went to Tesco in Bar Hill just before Christmas. They did a large Christmas shop, then went for lunch. They then shopped some more and spent 20 minutes queuing for check-out. After lunch they visited some of the other outlets on that site, and bought some more items.
In all they were parked for about 3 hours and 25 minutes.
They received no speculative parking invoice, but if they had my wife said she would have refused to pay, sent a copy of her invoice to the CEO of Tesco, with copies to the local press and asked if they would rather her shop elsewhere.
How dare these parking peasants penalise those who have chosen to put their business their way, or the way of their clients?
In all they were parked for about 3 hours and 25 minutes.
They received no speculative parking invoice, but if they had my wife said she would have refused to pay, sent a copy of her invoice to the CEO of Tesco, with copies to the local press and asked if they would rather her shop elsewhere.
How dare these parking peasants penalise those who have chosen to put their business their way, or the way of their clients?
spats said:
Kentish said:
It was the run up to Christmas.
A new huge store.
Bumped into people she knows who chatted a little.
Had to do the entire Xmas shop on her own with 2 kids of 2.5 years and 3.5 years old.
Kids have a strop as they don't wish to be forced into a trolley; they want to walk (usually to be encouraged for development but difficult to then go back on what you usually try to do - confusing to a toddler, no)?
Kids need toilet.
Kids need feeding.
Kids need toilet (one says they don't need to).
Find somewhere to leave shopping.
Pay for shopping.
Get kids to car (one now needs a wee).
Wheel trolley and toe kids back up escalator into store.
Find somewhere to park trolley with "PAID FOR" goods where it won't get stolen.
Visit toilet.
Find trolley that member of staff has moved.
Back to car; load shopping first this time just in case!
Put kids in car; hear those magic words ......."I need a poo"
Get other child out; back to store.
Wait for toilet to be free.
Visit toilet.
Back to car.
Oh sh!t .....3 hrs 15 mins since I parked.
Trust me; it is easily done.
Anyone who cannot relate to the above clearly has no kids or any understanding of what life is like with them.
OP I wouldn't even reply to these people doubting anything about parenting or the time taken being anything but an honest expectation to what’s probably the norm for you and your family.A new huge store.
Bumped into people she knows who chatted a little.
Had to do the entire Xmas shop on her own with 2 kids of 2.5 years and 3.5 years old.
Kids have a strop as they don't wish to be forced into a trolley; they want to walk (usually to be encouraged for development but difficult to then go back on what you usually try to do - confusing to a toddler, no)?
Kids need toilet.
Kids need feeding.
Kids need toilet (one says they don't need to).
Find somewhere to leave shopping.
Pay for shopping.
Get kids to car (one now needs a wee).
Wheel trolley and toe kids back up escalator into store.
Find somewhere to park trolley with "PAID FOR" goods where it won't get stolen.
Visit toilet.
Find trolley that member of staff has moved.
Back to car; load shopping first this time just in case!
Put kids in car; hear those magic words ......."I need a poo"
Get other child out; back to store.
Wait for toilet to be free.
Visit toilet.
Back to car.
Oh sh!t .....3 hrs 15 mins since I parked.
Trust me; it is easily done.
Anyone who cannot relate to the above clearly has no kids or any understanding of what life is like with them.
There’s a typical type PH that always raises its head to constantly poke at the OP and not help in the slightest. I find most that do it exist online to provoke reactions and somehow derive pleasure by derailing a thread and making the OP wish they hadn't bothered.
I've skipped a few pages, but I hope you spoke to the shop manager and escalated it if he/she wasn't helpful. I had a similar bogus invoice issued (not shopping related) and after getting nowhere with the management had to go to POPLA and get it sorted that way.
I have a 2 year old, and another on the way and I can fully understand how the time ticks away when described above. I hope it gets resolved in your favour!
t. The OP (or rather, his wife) hasn't got a leg to stand on. No-one would ever spend 3 hours in a supermarket car park unless they had parked there and then went off to do other things elsewhere. It's not a free car park, but as long as you adhere to the displayed rules then you can get away with it. I am sure lots of people do it. However this time, they took the piss, went over time and got caught. There is no redress to the store manager. If they even were in the shop, there are rules. If they weren't in the shop (as i am sure was the case) then saying they'd spent however much money and were ever such a good customer and would go to tesco if the fine were not waived, it would all be lies. If the OP ignores the fine it will go away, but telling him to write to the store manager like a horrid middle class "I demand to see the manager" type, which probably would entail telling lengthy lies in print - it's just an awful indictment on modern life. The type of people that do things like that are a fair part of what's wrong with life in the UK. Sometimes when you've done wrong, you just have to face it. Blown2CV said:
The type of people that do things like that are a fair part of what's wrong with life in the UK. Sometimes when you've done wrong, you just have to face it.
Absolute bullst. There is nothing wrong with asking for leniency on the basis that your a good customer is hardly an indication of the UK going wrong.Devil2575 said:
Blown2CV said:
The type of people that do things like that are a fair part of what's wrong with life in the UK. Sometimes when you've done wrong, you just have to face it.
Absolute bullst. There is nothing wrong with asking for leniency on the basis that your a good customer is hardly an indication of the UK going wrong.Blown2CV said:
I don't agree, and also your argument even hinges on whether they were indeed a customer, and not just parked there and off somewhere else like so many people seem to do; this being the reason why these parking enforcements even exist in the first place?
Is the £70 speculative invoice a fair pre-estimate of loss or is it taking the utter piss?Blown2CV said:
I don't agree, and also your argument even hinges on whether they were indeed a customer, and not just parked there and off somewhere else like so many people seem to do; this being the reason why these parking enforcements even exist in the first place?
Daily Mail headline writers are always looking for a reason to say that the country is going to the dogs. Even they would try to claim this one.IainT said:
Is the £70 speculative invoice a fair pre-estimate of loss or is it taking the utter piss?
Is it a speculative for what ? Parking charge up to 3 hours is free
Parking charge for over 3 hours is £70
Just seems like expensive parking for 3 hrs plus to me,
There's all day parking near my office one car park charges £2.50 one charges £3.90 none have 3 hours free parking you pay the same if you stay 15 minutes or 9 hours.
Blown2CV said:
No-one would ever spend 3 hours in a supermarket car park unless they had parked there and then went off to do other things elsewhere.
It is clear that you a) do not have small children, and b) do not regularly shop in a 'Hypermarket' which has some or more of the following:- Coffee shop / restaurant
- Clothing
- Large electrical department
- Optician
- Hairdresser / beauty salon
- Garden centre
- Key cutting / shoe repair
- Mobile phone shop
- Dry cleaning
- Pharmacy
- Petrol station
- Council recycling site
At the aforementioned Tesco Bar Hill, staff (used to 10 years ago, at least) wear rollerskates to get around, the place is so huge.
schmunk said:
Blown2CV said:
No-one would ever spend 3 hours in a supermarket car park unless they had parked there and then went off to do other things elsewhere.
It is clear that you a) do not have small children, and b) do not regularly shop in a 'Hypermarket' which has some or more of the following:- Coffee shop / restaurant
- Clothing
- Large electrical department
- Optician
- Hairdresser / beauty salon
- Garden centre
- Key cutting / shoe repair
- Mobile phone shop
- Dry cleaning
- Pharmacy
- Petrol station
- Council recycling site
At the aforementioned Tesco Bar Hill, staff (used to 10 years ago, at least) wear rollerskates to get around, the place is so huge.
schmunk said:
Blown2CV said:
No-one would ever spend 3 hours in a supermarket car park unless they had parked there and then went off to do other things elsewhere.
It is clear that you a) do not have small children, and b) do not regularly shop in a 'Hypermarket' which has some or more of the following:- Coffee shop / restaurant
- Clothing
- Large electrical department
- Optician
- Hairdresser / beauty salon
- Garden centre
- Key cutting / shoe repair
- Mobile phone shop
- Dry cleaning
- Pharmacy
- Petrol station
- Council recycling site
At the aforementioned Tesco Bar Hill, staff (used to 10 years ago, at least) wear rollerskates to get around, the place is so huge.
Blown2CV said:
You're right that sounds like fantastic day out. It's like Alton towers. In fact I'd gladly pay the £70 because it sounds like a bargain for all that. I might ask my no wife and no kids (supposedly) if they fancy a trip over. Maybe make a weekend of it. Actually our anniversary is coming up. I'm actually annoyed I didn't know about this before. How could anyone keep it under 3 hours? Impossible!
I am overawed by your Blown2CV said:
absolute bullst. The OP (or rather, his wife) hasn't got a leg to stand on. No-one would ever spend 3 hours in a supermarket car park unless they had parked there and then went off to do other things elsewhere. It's not a free car park, but as long as you adhere to the displayed rules then you can get away with it. I am sure lots of people do it. However this time, they took the piss, went over time and got caught. There is no redress to the store manager. If they even were in the shop, there are rules. If they weren't in the shop (as i am sure was the case) then saying they'd spent however much money and were ever such a good customer and would go to tesco if the fine were not waived, it would all be lies. If the OP ignores the fine it will go away, but telling him to write to the store manager like a horrid middle class "I demand to see the manager" type, which probably would entail telling lengthy lies in print - it's just an awful indictment on modern life. The type of people that do things like that are a fair part of what's wrong with life in the UK. Sometimes when you've done wrong, you just have to face it.
Wow. Maybe you need to step away from the coffee and enjoy some winter sunshine there. Its a shame when people pass judgement someone’s actions that in reality have zero effect not only to the store in question nor you. Its one of those things that’s wrong with this country wouldn’t you say? Passing Judgement on someone or something without being prepared to receive all the facts and always happy to assume the worst. Terrible really isnt it? t. The OP (or rather, his wife) hasn't got a leg to stand on. No-one would ever spend 3 hours in a supermarket car park unless they had parked there and then went off to do other things elsewhere. It's not a free car park, but as long as you adhere to the displayed rules then you can get away with it. I am sure lots of people do it. However this time, they took the piss, went over time and got caught. There is no redress to the store manager. If they even were in the shop, there are rules. If they weren't in the shop (as i am sure was the case) then saying they'd spent however much money and were ever such a good customer and would go to tesco if the fine were not waived, it would all be lies. If the OP ignores the fine it will go away, but telling him to write to the store manager like a horrid middle class "I demand to see the manager" type, which probably would entail telling lengthy lies in print - it's just an awful indictment on modern life. The type of people that do things like that are a fair part of what's wrong with life in the UK. Sometimes when you've done wrong, you just have to face it. As for writing to the manager who else do you suggest he informs of the situation? The cleaner? or maybe go higher and the CO of Tescos as has been suggested? Whats worse is people thinking that its wrong to let people in charge know if there’s a problem. There’s nothing wrong with informing the manager of the store and give them ample time to reply. You are their customer and as they enjoy saying “every little helps” and if they lose one customer due to the parking issues they may want to intervene. There’s zero horridness in that at all. There’s more horridness in assuming someone is lying when in reality you can’t even have the decency to take what they say at face value.
I also cant see why you take such offense that someone could take more than 3 hours in a super market, its really not THAT bad, surely no one died did they?
i've been over this, but i may as well go again.
if you've spent 3 hours in a supermarket you are a lunatic, and if you've got kids with you then i hope they screamed solidly the whole time. However no-one would ever spend 3 hours in a supermarket, i just won't accept that it ever happens, fking key cutters or no. It's fundamentally a lie, and basically they weren't in the supermarket. They were off in town shopping, enjoying spending the money they didn't 'waste' by parking in a proper car park.
However it is even the made up st that's annoyed me most, it's the attitude amongst some of the people posting in response that there is some justifiable right to complain in this scenario, that in some way even though they were solely at fault, and no-one made them break the clearly defined rules, that they were STILL somehow wronged. That even though the supermarket have put in place these exact rules to stop just these type of people from taking just the same kind of the piss, that in some way they'll make an exception because these people are the special ones. Further, that using leverage of being a 'good customer' and all the money they spend in the store, except they actually didn't, and that's putting good bullst after bad. Like the supermarket don't know exactly what's going on, and don't get 500 such letters a week.
if you've spent 3 hours in a supermarket you are a lunatic, and if you've got kids with you then i hope they screamed solidly the whole time. However no-one would ever spend 3 hours in a supermarket, i just won't accept that it ever happens, f
king key cutters or no. It's fundamentally a lie, and basically they weren't in the supermarket. They were off in town shopping, enjoying spending the money they didn't 'waste' by parking in a proper car park. However it is even the made up s
t that's annoyed me most, it's the attitude amongst some of the people posting in response that there is some justifiable right to complain in this scenario, that in some way even though they were solely at fault, and no-one made them break the clearly defined rules, that they were STILL somehow wronged. That even though the supermarket have put in place these exact rules to stop just these type of people from taking just the same kind of the piss, that in some way they'll make an exception because these people are the special ones. Further, that using leverage of being a 'good customer' and all the money they spend in the store, except they actually didn't, and that's putting good bullst after bad. Like the supermarket don't know exactly what's going on, and don't get 500 such letters a week. The plot thickens, I contacted the local council about their recycle plant within Sainsbury's car park, and the impact on people being caught out on the "2 hour return policy. Today's email from the council.
I spoke to a store manager yesterday evening and it seems that there has been a misunderstanding about the parking policy. The parking limit is 2 hours but you can come back any time you want as long as each stay is not more than 2 hours.
Totally conflicting with Euro Car Parks letter to me and the sign in the car park. Now to write to the manager and get him to confirm this, don't want to get caught out.
I am wondering if the reference to 2 hours parking is a typo, signs say 3.
I spoke to a store manager yesterday evening and it seems that there has been a misunderstanding about the parking policy. The parking limit is 2 hours but you can come back any time you want as long as each stay is not more than 2 hours.
Totally conflicting with Euro Car Parks letter to me and the sign in the car park. Now to write to the manager and get him to confirm this, don't want to get caught out.
I am wondering if the reference to 2 hours parking is a typo, signs say 3.
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