Speed Cameras, are they for safety, or revenue?

Speed Cameras, are they for safety, or revenue?

Poll: Speed Cameras, are they for safety, or revenue?

Total Members Polled: 478

Of course Safety: 7%
Oh, it is a tax collection system: 93%
Author
Discussion

Jasandjules

Original Poster:

69,868 posts

229 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Right, given that it appears some feel that speed cameras are about safety whilst I believe they are about Revenue and that it is inherently illogical to suggest that sticking to a speed limit is "safe".

This Poll is, in all the circumstances, open to those members who have been here in excess of five years.

So, please vote.......

PoleDriver

28,634 posts

194 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Any predictions regarding the result? smile

spaximus

4,231 posts

253 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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It depends how long it is on here, we just need to leave it a week and the lobby groups will make sure the right answer is given. They are like the Borg, resistance is futile, they just need log enough to sign the new breed of car enthusiasts up, you know those who hate cars.

Jasandjules

Original Poster:

69,868 posts

229 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Well I would hope that PH would be able to remove any votes from any member who has not been here over five years, given that is the hurdle we have set...

Countdown

39,822 posts

196 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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I think a third option (idiot penalising system) would have been helpful.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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If all cameras were removed and replaced by two traffic officers in a marked car at the exact same spot at every camera site would that make it better for you?

They are about enforcement of speed limits. Whether that raises revenue is moot, as the penalty is the same if caught by a traffic officer. Most don't like speed limits, most of us speed most of the time, I certainly do. If I get caught it's just one of those things.

I got away with a rather stupid drag race to 90 in a 40 with what turned out to be an unmarked car the other month. The coppers laughed and let me off with a bking. Had there been a speed camera there, then I'd have been on my way to court, or actually more likely is that I wouldn't as I wouldn't have done what I did and would have gone up there at 40.

I won the drag race and whip round the roundabout, if anyone's interested.

Boosted LS1

21,183 posts

260 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Roads can be built and managed to improve safety but that costs money. Speed camera's bring in huge amounts of revenue. It's a no brainer for whoever's in charge of policy.

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Countdown said:
I think a third option (idiot penalising system) would have been helpful.
yep

speed cameras ( of whatever nature) catch

idiots or the unobservant .

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Daft poll, only an idiot would think it was one or the other. Fixed camera on a dangerous road with a history of mad boy racer speeding - safety. Mobile site popping up around a bend to do streams of commuters at 36mph on a road that was 40mph before and had no bad history associated with speed - revenue and jobs. And every point in between.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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mph1977 said:
Countdown said:
I think a third option (idiot penalising system) would have been helpful.
yep

speed cameras ( of whatever nature) catch

idiots or the unobservant .
I take it you've not seen Derbyshire police in their white or black BMW 5 series parked up, pointing a speed camera through the windscreen, then?



Countdown

39,822 posts

196 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
I take it you've not seen Derbyshire police in their white or black BMW 5 series parked up, pointing a speed camera through the windscreen, then?

Wouldn't that come under the category of "unobservant"?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Countdown said:
mybrainhurts said:
I take it you've not seen Derbyshire police in their white or black BMW 5 series parked up, pointing a speed camera through the windscreen, then?

Wouldn't that come under the category of "unobservant"?
If you're going to consider every parked up 5 series might be a speed trap then, yes.

Countdown

39,822 posts

196 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
If you're going to consider every parked up 5 series might be a speed trap then, yes.
To be honest I don't see that many parked up 5 series Police cars (or indeed any police cars). And no, I wouldn't be speeding past them.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Countdown said:
mybrainhurts said:
If you're going to consider every parked up 5 series might be a speed trap then, yes.
To be honest I don't see that many parked up 5 series Police cars (or indeed any police cars). And no, I wouldn't be speeding past them.
I think you might have missed the colours.

Countdown

39,822 posts

196 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
Countdown said:
mybrainhurts said:
If you're going to consider every parked up 5 series might be a speed trap then, yes.
To be honest I don't see that many parked up 5 series Police cars (or indeed any police cars). And no, I wouldn't be speeding past them.
I think you might have missed the colours.
Didn't realise police cars had to hoist colours when they were parked up......... wink

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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unmarked traffic cars aren't hard to spot ...

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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How did we get onto actual traffpol? This is specifically about Speed cameras according to the poll and thread title. Hence why I asked if the OP would be happy if every camera were replaced by two traffic officers in a patrol car.

vonhosen

40,230 posts

217 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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They're for neither.
They are for enforcing the limit.
The question should be is the imposition of speed limits for safety or revenue.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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vonhosen said:
They're for neither.
They are for enforcing the limit.
The question should be is the imposition of speed limits for safety or revenue.
That's scarily close to my first post on this thread.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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mph1977 said:
unmarked traffic cars aren't hard to spot ...
Go on, then, tell us how, now the aerials are gone and assuming you can't see in through the windows due to light conditions and it's parked up on the other side of the road.