Car has 9 inch rust hole 8 months after buying from a dealer
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drew.h said:
The dealer did not put 12 months MOT on the car as he originally agreed, because my wife haggled the price down. So MOT not done by his garage.
Quote from their web site "ALL OUR VEHICLES COME PRE-CHECKED M.O.T CERTIFICATE FULLY VALETED. HPI CHECKED."
If you wasn't happy with it not having a MOT at the time when you took delivery of the car, why has it taken you till now to start moaning about it not having an MIOT done at the time?
drew.h said:
The dealer did not put 12 months MOT on the car as he originally agreed, because my wife haggled the price down. So MOT not done by his garage.
I would normally refer to a main dealer as a dealership, to me a car dealer is someone who makes money buying and selling cars and should know what they are doing. Hence why I feel there should be some recompense when they sell a lemon. Isn't part of their markup on a car because you are paying for their expertise as a professional?
Quote from their web site "ALL OUR VEHICLES COME PRE-CHECKED M.O.T CERTIFICATE FULLY VALETED. HPI CHECKED."
I've emailed the garage, but no reply yet, if I get time I'll phone them tomorrow. I'll have my local MOT station take a look and quote for the repair.
The wire brush was hand held, not powered.
I understand you were i no position to do a full inspection but a random coat of black underseal on the top of a suspension strut in the engine bay should have thrown huge alarm bells! Someone must have opened the bonnet.
silentbrown said:
b: Hole is only 9" because OP has gone mad with a wire drill
Completely irrelevant, wire brushes do not make holes in good steel. Anything removed by a wire brush was not contributing to the integrity of the cars structure, and since an MOT tester uses a hammer to test for corrosion it would have passed straight through anyway.If the OP had attacked it with an angle grinder and cut a 9 inch hole you might have a point.
drew.h said:
That area had been painted with underseal, but 'looked' solid.
Judging for the photo it's been painted with something like Kurust (which is a rust preventative/'killer' paint, that turns blue/black when applied). Also, judging from the photo, it's rusted from the inside out.So I would suspect this was an attempt to treat what appeared to be surface rust rather than trying to hide a problem.
How big is the hole anyway - Based on the picture it looks only about 4-5 inches long??
drew.h said:
That area had been painted with underseal, but 'looked' solid.
So what, exactly, did you expect the trader and/or MOT man to do to identify that it was so very different from the other side...drew.h said:
The other inner wing is painted in the same place and is solid.
Both sides had clearly had some fairly rough'n'ready attention, yet both sides looked at first appearance to be solid. Well, that's what the MOT man tests on - does it look solid? Nine months ago, it may well have tapped solid. Nine months time, the other side may well succumb to serious wire-brushing, too.Apart from his eyes - and you've said that it looked solid - all he's allowed to use to check for rot is one of these, the fabled MOT "corrosion assessment tool", and he's not allowed to dismantle anything - including the fusebox lid.
drew.h said:
£1300 with private plate (??? 2016). Automated plate valuation offered £50, but I think next year its going to be worth a bit more.
Maybe 9inch is an exaggeration, I'll pretend I meant 9inch²
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In summary, you bought a 13 year old 4x4 worth less than £1300 which 8 months later developed a small rust hole. And you think the dealer who sold you the car should pay for the repair? I have to say, I think your expectations are probably a little too high.Maybe 9inch is an exaggeration, I'll pretend I meant 9inch²
.allergictocheese said:
In summary, you bought a 13 year old 4x4 worth less than £1300
...with a sodding great big clearly visible patch of brush-splodge covering grot on both inner wings...allergictocheese said:
which 8 months later developed a small rust hole. And you think the dealer who sold you the car should pay for the repair? I have to say, I think your expectations are probably a little too high.
With bells on.drew.h said:
...with private plate (??? 2016). Automated plate valuation offered £50, but I think next year its going to be worth a bit more.
Still, you can only admire the consistency of his optimism.TooMany2cvs said:
allergictocheese said:
In summary, you bought a 13 year old 4x4 worth less than £1300
...with a sodding great big clearly visible patch of brush-splodge covering grot on both inner wings...allergictocheese said:
which 8 months later developed a small rust hole. And you think the dealer who sold you the car should pay for the repair? I have to say, I think your expectations are probably a little too high.
With bells on.drew.h said:
...with private plate (??? 2016). Automated plate valuation offered £50, but I think next year its going to be worth a bit more.
Still, you can only admire the consistency of his optimism.drew.h said:
No whiplash, try chest injury, caused by seat belt and steering wheel. As for compensation, have I been paid for the few days I had off work, no. Did I take lots of time off work and claim for it, no, because my chest hurt the same sat at home as it did at work, so I kept working.
Was I able to ride my motorbike this year, no. My shire horse, no, in fact I had re-home him. Did I get my TVR on the road, no, I wouldn't have been able to drive without power steering. Was I able to work on my garden or the land I own, no. Have I claimed for any of this, NO!
What have I got? A constant reminder of the day a drunken OAP forgot what side of the road he drove on, every time I take a breath, and don't forget the rust bucket to replace the well maintained Jumbuck I was driving.
Sorry, rant over.
So you want to blame and expect compensation from a dealer selling you a 13 year old car for £1300 (with private plate) nine months ago that now has some rust on a inner wing....? But you don't want any thing from a drunk driver, driving on the wrong side of the road that's caused you all this pain,injury,inconvenience and financial loss....?Was I able to ride my motorbike this year, no. My shire horse, no, in fact I had re-home him. Did I get my TVR on the road, no, I wouldn't have been able to drive without power steering. Was I able to work on my garden or the land I own, no. Have I claimed for any of this, NO!
What have I got? A constant reminder of the day a drunken OAP forgot what side of the road he drove on, every time I take a breath, and don't forget the rust bucket to replace the well maintained Jumbuck I was driving.
Sorry, rant over.
markmullen said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Still, you can only admire the consistency of his optimism.
Remember this is the chap who went legal on the description of a different £700 snotter.http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Riiiight.
Chimune said:
drew.h said:
You live and learn.
Apparently not.....
drew.h about 7 months ago said:
I bought a car without looking at it first and it turned out to be a crock
drew.h 7 months later said:
I bought a car without looking at it first and it turned out to be a crock
I'm seeing a pattern emerge!TooMany2cvs said:
markmullen said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Still, you can only admire the consistency of his optimism.
Remember this is the chap who went legal on the description of a different £700 snotter.http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Riiiight.
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