Car has 9 inch rust hole 8 months after buying from a dealer
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8 months ago I bought a 2nd hand car from a dealer. Over the past few weeks a rust patch has become more apparent on the inside of the wing where some wax oil had been painted by a previous owner. When I tried to clean the area to apply more paint the wire brush went through the wing leaving a 9 inch hole. This is next to the suspension strut and I assume classed as load bearing, so won't pass MOT.
Could I argue that this was a fault present in the car when I bought it?
Does the dealer have any responsibility to repair this?
Could I argue that this was a fault present in the car when I bought it?
Does the dealer have any responsibility to repair this?
drew.h said:
8 months ago I bought a 2nd hand car from a dealer. Over the past few weeks a rust patch has become more apparent on the inside of the wing where some wax oil had been painted by a previous owner. When I tried to clean the area to apply more paint the wire brush went through the wing leaving a 9 inch hole. This is next to the suspension strut and I assume classed as load bearing, so won't pass MOT.
Could I argue that this was a fault present in the car when I bought it?
Does the dealer have any responsibility to repair this?
You are not been serious are you?Could I argue that this was a fault present in the car when I bought it?
Does the dealer have any responsibility to repair this?
Trading standards say a car bought from a dealer should be... said:
- Of a satisfactory quality - free from minor defects, safe and durable for a reasonable length of time. When assessing satisfactory quality you should take into account the price you paid for the vehicle, its age, mileage and condition at the time of sale.
- Fit for its intended purpose or a purpose that you made known to the trader - fit to be driven on the road.
You bought a 13-year old shed and drove it for 8 months. Old cars can get rusty. I can't see you have leg to stand on. - Fit for its intended purpose or a purpose that you made known to the trader - fit to be driven on the road.
drew.h said:
8 months ago I bought a 2nd hand car from a dealer. Over the past few weeks a rust patch has become more apparent on the inside of the wing where some wax oil had been painted by a previous owner. When I tried to clean the area to apply more paint the wire brush went through the wing leaving a 9 inch hole. This is next to the suspension strut and I assume classed as load bearing, so won't pass MOT.
Could I argue that this was a fault present in the car when I bought it?
Does the dealer have any responsibility to repair this?
BLOOD E HELL!!!!!!!!!Could I argue that this was a fault present in the car when I bought it?
Does the dealer have any responsibility to repair this?
This has got to be a wind up!
Is it a Shogun, or Shogun Pinin?
They can both corrode pretty badly, but the Pinin is known for being rust prone to the levels of a 70's Lancia. I've seen mint looking examples (on the surface) that flex like tupperware when you jack them up or apply pressure to the bulkhead. The rear is also a weak point on them at the boot floor behind the bumper. It's an MOT fail either end, and they are usually scrapped as you can be into them for 5/6/700 quid of welding on what is a cheap car anyway if it happens front and rear. Which usually when you look, it's in more than one site.
As for recourse, I don't think after 8 months you can reasonably expect any on a car of that age.
They can both corrode pretty badly, but the Pinin is known for being rust prone to the levels of a 70's Lancia. I've seen mint looking examples (on the surface) that flex like tupperware when you jack them up or apply pressure to the bulkhead. The rear is also a weak point on them at the boot floor behind the bumper. It's an MOT fail either end, and they are usually scrapped as you can be into them for 5/6/700 quid of welding on what is a cheap car anyway if it happens front and rear. Which usually when you look, it's in more than one site.
As for recourse, I don't think after 8 months you can reasonably expect any on a car of that age.
At the time I bought this car I was in no fit state to properly inspect it, so I thought I'd go to a dealer so I wouldn't end up buying a lemon. I bought 2 cars from dealers at the time, this and a Saab. The Saab I had to take to small claims and I eventually got my money back. Now this car I've had for 8 months is little more than scrap. I will never again buy from a dealer, I've had far better cars buying blind on eBay.
drew.h said:
At the time I bought this car I was in no fit state to properly inspect it, so I thought I'd go to a dealer so I wouldn't end up buying a lemon. I bought 2 cars from dealers at the time, this and a Saab. The Saab I had to take to small claims and I eventually got my money back. Now this car I've had for 8 months is little more than scrap. I will never again buy from a dealer, I've had far better cars buying blind on eBay.
How much did you pay for the Saab? If you keep buying cheap snotters you have to accept you'll not get the reliability and backup of buying a new car. There is a reason old well used cars are cheap, it is because they are closer to the end of their life than a new car. To think anything otherwise is naivety. drew.h said:
At the time I bought this car I was in no fit state to properly inspect it, so I thought I'd go to a dealer so I wouldn't end up buying a lemon. I bought 2 cars from dealers at the time, this and a Saab. The Saab I had to take to small claims and I eventually got my money back. Now this car I've had for 8 months is little more than scrap. I will never again buy from a dealer, I've had far better cars buying blind on eBay.
I think you mean a trader, rather than a main dealer?You are right though, buying at this end of the market, you might as well buy privately in most cases and inspect thoroughly.
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