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Sounds like a Walter in the OP, why would he have his cap but be out of uniform.
Firstly I would have asked to see his id card and if he did produce one take the details and then turn the tables. Demand he call his commanding officer, suggest you will pursue an abuse of office or complaint to professional standards. Years ago I got into a verbal with a "special" who tried this game on and he soon changed his tune when he realised I was not going to be a push over.
If he doesn't produce any proof of ID, tell him to sling his hook or you will call the Police yourself and have him arrested for impersonating a Police Officer.
On the other hand if you know you are in the wrong and they have you bang to rights then eat humble pie.
Just like everybody else police officer need to obey the law as well as uphold it.
Firstly I would have asked to see his id card and if he did produce one take the details and then turn the tables. Demand he call his commanding officer, suggest you will pursue an abuse of office or complaint to professional standards. Years ago I got into a verbal with a "special" who tried this game on and he soon changed his tune when he realised I was not going to be a push over.
If he doesn't produce any proof of ID, tell him to sling his hook or you will call the Police yourself and have him arrested for impersonating a Police Officer.
On the other hand if you know you are in the wrong and they have you bang to rights then eat humble pie.
Just like everybody else police officer need to obey the law as well as uphold it.
Edited by Martin4x4 on Saturday 31st January 09:17
Jim1556 said:
What's the best way to confirm a stop by a genuine Police officer?
Before 101 I was driving a van and 'might' have been going a bit quick!Unmarked car in a layby, man gets out and hangs out a handmade stop sign, I pull into the layby but keep the engine running and in 1st get ready to go. He wasn't wearing a hat but what looked like police uniform without a jacket (it was summer), he asked me to get out, I said can I see some ID, he held his warrant card to the window.
In the back of the police car whilst looking at the video he asked why I'd been awkward by asking for ID. I told him what I had in the back of the van (c£40k in coins from vending machines) his attitude changed immediately and he asked if I had locked the van!
He said that if I had asked to drive to the local police station (as I was told to do by my boss) he would just have called for a marked car and been very pissed off at me!
My missus had a similar scenario, picked up a car and was stopped as car wasnt on the MIB.She explained it was in trade and showed the trade policy with her name but was then asked where she was taking the car! Quite rightly she told them to jog on and mind their own business not hers and just drove off. Some of these morons think they have much more power than they actually have..
22Rgt said:
My missus had a similar scenario, picked up a car and was stopped as car wasnt on the MIB.She explained it was in trade and showed the trade policy with her name but was then asked where she was taking the car! Quite rightly she told them to jog on and mind their own business not hers and just drove off. Some of these morons think they have much more power than they actually have..
Not worth the response...Edited by Mk3Spitfire on Saturday 31st January 22:08
22Rgt said:
My missus had a similar scenario, picked up a car and was stopped as car wasnt on the MIB.She explained it was in trade and showed the trade policy with her name but was then asked where she was taking the car! Quite rightly she told them to jog on and mind their own business not hers and just drove off. Some of these morons think they have much more power than they actually have..
I parked my car by the roadside tonight in our local town (no parking restrictions or marked bays)). The street is used almost constantly used for shopping parking during the day and is busy during the working week but only the odd car dotted along the roadside in the evening/weekend. As I was getting out of the car, a police officer marched up to me and quite aggresively asked if I was deliberately being thick, pointed out that if I had parked a few feet further forward there would be room for more cars in the street. Now if he had been polite and non-aggressive I would have agreed and jumped back in the car and moved it a bit, but I didn't like his attitude so stubbornly I shrugged my shoulders and started to walk away. My wife who hates confrontation quietly asked me to move the car but as I turned round to do so , the prat in uniform said ' yes , do as she says son before you get yourself in bother'. I turned and walked away not rising to the bait. I have a lot of respect for the Police and I'm usually polite and helpful but with an attitude like his, I'm not surprised that many people have no respect for them. I live in a rural area and used to know most of the local police officers but since the nationalisation of the Scottish force there seem to be a lot of visiting officers from other (city) areas with a completely different attitude to policing. The way I see it, arrogance and contempt breeds more of the same and if the police force wants a decent attitude from the public, a decent attitude needs to be presented to the public.
About 17 years ago I was driving home with some mates in the car when I was pulled by the Police. I asked them why I had been stopped and they just said that as it was after midnight and I was a youngish looking lad (23 but I used to get asked for I.D until well past 25) in a decent car they were just doing a check. A brief but polite exchange followed and I was on my way with no problems whatsoever.
A year or two before I was on the M1 driving back from Reading Festival when I was pulled by an unmarked car. 87 mph in the outside lane but the officer was more bothered that I should have moved over and when he flashed his lights I did a little panic brake. A Polite exchange in his car and a producer later and I was on my way.
18 years ago I was on my way to an exam when I'm stopped by officers at the side of the road. The reason was that I had a break light out. A short polite exchange later and a promise to get it fixed and I'm on my way.
I guess I'm just lucky.
Or maybe it's just that I'm polite.
A year or two before I was on the M1 driving back from Reading Festival when I was pulled by an unmarked car. 87 mph in the outside lane but the officer was more bothered that I should have moved over and when he flashed his lights I did a little panic brake. A Polite exchange in his car and a producer later and I was on my way.
18 years ago I was on my way to an exam when I'm stopped by officers at the side of the road. The reason was that I had a break light out. A short polite exchange later and a promise to get it fixed and I'm on my way.
I guess I'm just lucky.
Or maybe it's just that I'm polite.
vanordinaire said:
I parked my car by the roadside tonight in our local town (no parking restrictions or marked bays)). The street is used almost constantly used for shopping parking during the day and is busy during the working week but only the odd car dotted along the roadside in the evening/weekend. As I was getting out of the car, a police officer marched up to me and quite aggresively asked if I was deliberately being thick, pointed out that if I had parked a few feet further forward there would be room for more cars in the street. Now if he had been polite and non-aggressive I would have agreed and jumped back in the car and moved it a bit, but I didn't like his attitude so stubbornly I shrugged my shoulders and started to walk away. My wife who hates confrontation quietly asked me to move the car but as I turned round to do so , the prat in uniform said ' yes , do as she says son before you get yourself in bother'. I turned and walked away not rising to the bait. I have a lot of respect for the Police and I'm usually polite and helpful but with an attitude like his, I'm not surprised that many people have no respect for them. I live in a rural area and used to know most of the local police officers but since the nationalisation of the Scottish force there seem to be a lot of visiting officers from other (city) areas with a completely different attitude to policing. The way I see it, arrogance and contempt breeds more of the same and if the police force wants a decent attitude from the public, a decent attitude needs to be presented to the public.
Is there any chance that you could break that up into a few paragraphs?It would make it so much easier to read.
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