Insurance procedure after car collision with a child.

[Vaud]

daveky said:

More than half of the population of the UK are such failures that they need benefits handouts.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/06/welfare-britain-facts-myths
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/anastasia-richards...

64% of families do receive some form of benefits.

But that is very different from being failures. Pensioners are a large slice of the costs...

[KFC]

Whether someone receives benefits or not is utterly irrelevant. What you should be looking at is whether people take out more than they put in.

[Retroman]

KFC said:

Whether someone receives benefits or not is utterly irrelevant. What you should be looking at is whether people take out more than they put in.

Like people who have long term disabilities?

[Devil2575]

Retroman said:

KFC said:

Whether someone receives benefits or not is utterly irrelevant. What you should be looking at is whether people take out more than they put in.

Like people who have long term disabilities?

I imagine that someone who is paralysed at a youngish age and so unable to work would fall into this catagory. Bloody scroungers...

[KFC]

Retroman said:

KFC said:

Whether someone receives benefits or not is utterly irrelevant. What you should be looking at is whether people take out more than they put in.

Like people who have long term disabilities?

I'm not sure what the relevance of that is. Every society is going to have people who can't work and I don't think anyone is going to grudge them taxpayers money to live a reasonable lifestyle. The only issue most are going to have is the ones who can't be bothered working. Or that technically work but have so many kids they're on ridiculous benefit levels.

[Retroman]

KFC said:

I'm not sure what the relevance of that is.

I was just pointing out that not everyone who is on long term benefits wants to be.

[Ahimoth]

The break even point with the state is probably a lot higher than most people think it is. Had a lengthy discussion on this elsewhere, it was fairly sobering.

Chances are, if you're a somewhat less than high earner, and you live long enough to get the various things old people get, and the help they need, you're probably not going to break even over your lifetime.

Just think about how much money, in today's terms, 11+ years of education cost.

[liner33]

Ahimoth said:

The break even point with the state is probably a lot higher than most people think it is. Had a lengthy discussion on this elsewhere, it was fairly sobering.

Chances are, if you're a somewhat less than high earner, and you live long enough to get the various things old people get, and the help they need, you're probably not going to break even over your lifetime.

Just think about how much money, in today's terms, 11+ years of education cost.

C£30k of which 80% is spent in staff wages so 20-40% goes back in income tax and another 5-10% would go back to the Local Authority in other fees . The amount that actually gets spent directly on the pupils in terms of resources is very low unless the child qualifies for additional funds ie free school means , special needs or looked after children etc