Sold wrong tyres - car dangerous.

Sold wrong tyres - car dangerous.

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onyx39

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11,120 posts

150 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Bought an Mg Tf a few months back, and about 6 weeks ago, bought new rear tyres. Only one needed replacing, but I ffigured, better to replace both.
Phoned around a few local tyre stockists with my preferred tyres in mind, and was told by a local stockist, that he had just taken a set of tyres off a car, and two of them, were virtually brand new with 6mm tread on, would I be interested in a cash deal.
Agreed, following morning, had them fitted, very happy.
Shortly before this, I had hit a pothole, and this had put my 4 wheel alignment way out, car handled terribly over 50 mph, but as I did not do many motorway miles (if any) thought I would wait to get the 4 wheel alignment done. Did this last weekend, handling a little better, but still not right.
Did some digging around, transpires that the tyres are completely unsuitable (side walls are not strong enough, makes handling very scary).
Have now ordered correct tyres, which are being fitted in the morning.
2 questions, 1) should I be going back to the fitter and demanding my money back, as they are "not fit for purpose", or should I just move on,
2) as they still have 5mm or so tread on, Is it worth keeping them and flogging them on eBay to recover done of my losses, or will I have damaged the tyre walls?

pinchmeimdreamin

9,901 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Are they the correct size / speed rating for the car ?

onyx39

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Thursday 22nd January 2015
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
Are they the correct size / speed rating for the car ?
Size, yes, speed rating, not sure.

Andyjc86

1,149 posts

149 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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I can't imagine the load rating being too low for a TF, so should they be XL?

Retroman

965 posts

133 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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How did you come to the conclusion the sidewalls aren't strong enough for your car?
How do you know what tyres have sidewalls strong enough for your car?

HertsBiker

6,307 posts

271 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Is it 'feel' that tells you the sidewalks are not strong enough? Or are the rating of the tyres not right? Sometimes a different brand, or mixed brands, or even incorrect tyre pressures make a huge difference. As I'm pissed, I can't remember if you said you got it retracked... Alignment matters. Good luck.

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

179 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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are they the correct loading? Does rover recomend XTRA LOAD and they are not?

otolith

55,990 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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What are the tyres?

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

178 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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These are sensitive to tyres, what brand size and rating where they ?

I suspect you are not the first person to have had issues with them...

onyx39

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Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Tyres are Dunlop Maxxsports. 215 45 R 16's.

Mg recommend certain tyres, and this is not one of the recommended tyres. I am getting the correct ones fitted in the morning.

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

179 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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onyx39 said:
Tyres are Dunlop Maxxsports. 215 45 R 16's.

Mg recommend certain tyres, and this is not one of the recommended tyres. I am getting the correct ones fitted in the morning.
What mg may recommend is ok but a premium tyre like dunlop tyres that are the correct spec should be fine.

The side walls should not make a difference if the are the correct size and loading.

Why come on here for advice give incomplete info and they say getting them replaced tomorrow.

Have you been on a rover.mg for advice?



voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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OP seems to be equating a recommended list with do not use anything else.

Has the manufacturer of the tyres or car said these particular tyres should not be used on the car.

98elise

26,474 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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onyx39 said:
Tyres are Dunlop Maxxsports. 215 45 R 16's.

Mg recommend certain tyres, and this is not one of the recommended tyres. I am getting the correct ones fitted in the morning.
So not dangerous then?

otolith

55,990 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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pigeonskirt

506 posts

139 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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onyx39 said:
Tyres are Dunlop Maxxsports. 215 45 R 16's.

Mg recommend certain tyres, and this is not one of the recommended tyres. I am getting the correct ones fitted in the morning.
What a car manufacturer recommends and what's safe are two different things. As long as the size, speed rating and direction is correct I would suggest the tyre fitter has done nothing wrong.

jbsportstech

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179 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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pigeonskirt said:
What a car manufacturer recommends and what's safe are two different things. As long as the size, speed rating and direction is correct I would suggest the tyre fitter has done nothing wrong.
use to work with a right muppet, got michelins fitted to his bmw z4 2.2 that werent runflats which I didnt know was possible but he ended up buying another 4 boots from a bmw dealer. "a fool and their money are easily parted"

lbc

3,215 posts

217 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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onyx39 said:
Phoned around a few local tyre stockists with my preferred tyres in mind, and was told by a local stockist, that he had just taken a set of tyres off a car, and two of them, were virtually brand new with 6mm tread on, would I be interested in a cash deal.
Agreed, following morning, had them fitted, very happy.
6mm tread is nowhere near virtually brand new, but if there were no obvious defects I can't see how you would get a refund on used tyres.



rallycross

12,778 posts

237 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Sounds like you got a good deal on a pair of part worn tyres and now think you bought the wrong ones?
Dunlop max sports tend to have a really stiff sidewall which is exactly what you need on one of these cars, the stiffer the sidewall the better - make sure you are not replacing these with so with something which is not much different.

( have owned MgF/Mr2's/vx220's etc tyres make a bid difference and you don't want soft sidewalls).

rallycross

12,778 posts

237 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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rallycross said:
Sounds like you got a good deal on a pair of part worn tyres and now think you bought the wrong ones?
Dunlop max sports tend to have a really stiff sidewall which is exactly what you need on one of these cars, the stiffer the sidewall the better - make sure you are not replacing these with so with something which is not much different.

( have owned MgF/Mr2's/vx220's etc tyres make a bid difference and you don't want soft sidewalls).
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How much did you pay for the part worms? It's not like buying new tyres you can't really complain you should have done some research ( ps I'd rather have some Dunlop max sports on it than some cheap crap like Toyo's).

onyx39

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Thursday 22nd January 2015
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rallycross said:
Sounds like you got a good deal on a pair of part worn tyres and now think you bought the wrong ones?
Dunlop max sports tend to have a really stiff sidewall which is exactly what you need on one of these cars, the stiffer the sidewall the better - make sure you are not replacing these with so with something which is not much different.

( have owned MgF/Mr2's/vx220's etc tyres make a bid difference and you don't want soft sidewalls).
That's pretty much correct. The sidewalks ARE too soft, there is far too much flex when cornering and changing lanes on motorways. Feel extremely unstable.
I am certain I bought the wrong ones, my point is, if I go to someone who sells tyres for a living, surely he should know what tyres need to go on what cars, and he gets it wrong, should be refunding me. Don't get me wrong, it's not a huge amount of money, it's the principle.
I put in my original post that I am changing them tomorrow, my question was, do I have grounds to ask the person who sold me (incorrect) tyres for a refund?