Sold wrong tyres - car dangerous.

Sold wrong tyres - car dangerous.

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leefee

633 posts

129 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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lbc said:
6mm tread is nowhere near virtually brand new, but if there were no obvious defects I can't see how you would get a refund on used tyres.
Really? Im pretty sure 7 or 8 mm is all new tyres come with, so 6mm certainly isnt far off new.........

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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otolith said:

That says more about the mg than tyres.

Retroman

969 posts

133 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Appears to be a case of "Sold cheap tyres...discovered they don't grip as well as expensive branded tyres"

I've been in the same boat. My cheap branded tyres with 7mm tread don't grip as well as my Toyo Proxies in the wet, even when the Proxies have 2mm of tread left.

onyx39

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11,123 posts

150 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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rallycross said:
( ps I'd rather have some Dunlop max sports on it than some cheap crap like Toyo's).
lol... I would LOVE to have the chance to fit "cheap crap Toyo's" they are the recommended tyre, every Tf owner I know (and I knew a fair few) swears by the,.
Unfortunately, they are not making the TR-1 at the moment frown

pinchmeimdreamin

9,965 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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onyx39 said:
I put in my original post that I am changing them tomorrow, my question was, do I have grounds to ask the person who sold me (incorrect) tyres for a refund?
I would say no, he sold you tyres that were the correct size/rating for your car.

rallycross

12,800 posts

237 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
onyx39 said:
I put in my original post that I am changing them tomorrow, my question was, do I have grounds to ask the person who sold me (incorrect) tyres for a refund?
I would say no, he sold you tyres that were the correct size/rating for your car.
Not really most tyre fitters haven't got a clue what will work well or will not work well on a mid engined sports car, and buying 2nd hand tyres you need to know what you are doing!

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,255 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Side walls can make a difference. (Not sure about them actually being dangerous though)

My TVR ran Bridgstone SO2 potenza with a code that I forget now. They discontinued this particular tyre, but still made an SO2 with same dimensions & tread, it was a Porsche fitment. Despite them looking the same (black & round biggrin), they were unsuitable due to side wall construction. I can't recall whether it was too much or too little give that was the problem.

And, as already said 6mm is of course not that far off a new tyre in terms of tread depth. You can of course also check their age from a date code on the side wall.


2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,255 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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..and up to date I've ran Toyos, which have been fab.

otolith

56,153 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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REALIST123 said:
otolith said:

That says more about the mg than tyres.
It's no more prescriptive than, say, Porsche.

Pit Pony

8,589 posts

121 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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onyx39 said:
do I have grounds to ask the person who sold me (incorrect) tyres for a refund?
No. You got the right size, and a speed rating that was as high or higher than standard, so tough st if you bought a pair of ditch finders.

Now if they'd sold you run flats and your car had no pressure warning system, then you'd have a case, as it wouldn't be safe.

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

178 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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As others have said, toyos or drive like a granny.

Maxx sports are a bit twitchy on the back of these at speed as you have discovered.

I'll say it again just so you understand, these are really sensitive to tyre choice, fit the toyos that everyone and their dog recommends.

You can try and get a refund but, I bet you don't have a receipt as it was a cash deal for some shonky part worn tyres of an unknown heritage ! =)

BertBert

19,053 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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course you can't get a refund. It would be impossible to assert that tyres of the right size, speed and load rating were dangerous (I'm struggling to believe it myself).

Fit your news ones and carry on.

Bert

ADEuk

1,911 posts

236 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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onyx39 said:
Shortly before this, I had hit a pothole, and this had put my 4 wheel alignment way out, car handled terribly over 50 mph, but as I did not do many motorway miles (if any) thought I would wait to get the 4 wheel alignment done. Did this last weekend, handling a little better, but still not right.
Was this before or after having the tyres fitted?

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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onyx39 said:
handled terribly over 50 mph,
They all do that Sir.

Edited by carreauchompeur on Thursday 22 January 22:28

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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ADEuk said:
onyx39 said:
Shortly before this, I had hit a pothole, and this had put my 4 wheel alignment way out, car handled terribly over 50 mph, but as I did not do many motorway miles (if any) thought I would wait to get the 4 wheel alignment done. Did this last weekend, handling a little better, but still not right.
Was this before or after having the tyres fitted?
Damaged suspension perhaps? Don't just assume the problem is the tyres.

Vaud

50,535 posts

155 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Arte the front / back mismatched for brand/age/tread depth?

ADEuk

1,911 posts

236 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Buy's car, hits pothole, handles badly afterwards but as he doesn't go on the motorway much it'll be finerolleyes Buys a pair of second hand tyres for cash but still not right.
And he thinks the tyre fitter is the danger?


Who me ?

7,455 posts

212 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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pigeonskirt said:
What a car manufacturer recommends and what's safe are two different things. As long as the size, speed rating and direction is correct I would suggest the tyre fitter has done nothing wrong.
And some manufacturers can't get the speed rating for models right. I was in a tyre place, where an elderly owner had come in with a VAG TDI model which had originals on front, The owner insisted on identical tyres being ,till the type fitter explained the side wall markings(ones fitted were lowest possible rating) , and suggested that he'd not recommend the makers speed rating on a car at 70 in summer. Apart from that, he could get the tyres in makers speed rating, but same make /size etc with a higher speed rating were cheaper. On the other hand ,I've had new tyres fitted at national( not the name of the firm) places where the tyre pressures were excessive, causing the vehicle to be rear end sloppy.

Dgr90

168 posts

132 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Surely it is your job to ensure you are buying tyres that suit your car? Its unreasonable to think that a tyre fitter is going to know which tyre every model 'prefers'. He asked you if you wanted cheap tyres, he didnt recommend them or advise you that they would suit the car best (unless OP left that bit out). I read this as 'I didnt do my homework, now looking for someone to blame'.

ging84

8,899 posts

146 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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So you were supplied with the tyres you asked for, in the correct size, now you want your money back because (you claim) they are not fit for purpose
ignoring the issue of they almost certainly are fit for purpose, and lets pretend they're not, so what, they were apparently your preferred tyre choice, if you asked for the tyre supplier which tyres would be suitable for your car and they picked the wrong ones you might have a leg to stand on, but you picked them so you don't.