Sold wrong tyres - car dangerous.

[Stoofa]

Alas there are no automatic refund options where buyers remorse is concerned.

[EskimoArapaho]

nikaiyo2 said:

This, some places are utterly crap... mid engine cars appear to be much harder to set up. I used to live literally 1/2 a mile from Micheldever where there is a well known tyre place, who could never get the geometry correct on my old MR2.

http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/ on the other hand worked wonders

+1 WiM sorted out my car perfectly, after a local place with the same machine had made a complete dog's dinner of the alignment.

[Du1point8]

I still read it as...

1) OP did research and looked for tyre that OP wanted.
2) Rang the tyre fitter and they said yes that they have part worn set going for cash if he wants them.
3) OP pays cash for a set of tyres OP asked for.
4) OP doesn't like the way the car is still handling after previously hitting pothole.
5) OP doesn't like handling after alignment fixed.
6) OP looks on internet properly and sees that the tyres he had requested are not really that suitable for OPs car.
7) Instead of OP blaming himself for not doing enough research, OP blames tyre fitter for supplying OP with tyres OP had asked for and wants to know if OP can claim refund (plus damages and compensation no doubt).

8) Whole of PH laugh at OP for not taking responsibility for making the wrong choice, looking to blame tyre fitter by saying they should have known.

Am I close?

[etchacan]

Du1point8 said:

I still read it as...

1) OP did research and looked for tyre that OP wanted.
2) Rang the tyre fitter and they said yes that they have part worn set going for cash if he wants them.
3) OP pays cash for a set of tyres OP asked for.
4) OP doesn't like the way the car is still handling after previously hitting pothole.
5) OP doesn't like handling after alignment fixed.
6) OP looks on internet properly and sees that the tyres he had requested are not really that suitable for OPs car.
7) Instead of OP blaming himself for not doing enough research, OP blames tyre fitter for supplying OP with tyres OP had asked for and wants to know if OP can claim refund (plus damages and compensation no doubt).

8) Whole of PH laugh at OP for not taking responsibility for making the wrong choice, looking to blame tyre fitter by saying they should have known.

Am I close?

You forgot:

9) Was told he should have bought an MX-5 instead.

[Andyjc86]

OP, have the new tyres cured it?

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Andyjc86 said:

OP, have the new tyres cured it?

Sadly not
Upon leaving the highly respected Kwik tyre people with his nice new Toyo's on, the balljoint (which was damaged in the pothole incident ) Finally let go and the OP is now stranded waiting for Recovery.

[majordad]

Am I out of order in thinking that posts like this are a sign of what PH has become since the Haymarket takeover. Move on OP and don't waste our space.

Edited by majordad on Friday 23 January 23:56

[s3fella]

majordad said:

Am I out of order in thinking that posts like this are a sign of what PH has become since the Haymarket takeover. Move on OP and don't waste our space.

Edited by majordad on Friday 23 January 23:56

21st Century man obtains good cheap tyres, and he bought a great set of tyres.
21st Century man obtains not so good cheap tyres and he was sold a duff set.


21st century man has no gump.

[2 sMoKiN bArReLs]

majordad said:

Am I out of order in thinking that posts like this are a sign of what PH has become since the Haymarket takeover. Move on OP and don't waste our space.

Edited by majordad on Friday 23 January 23:56

Yes, you are completely out of order

[randomeddy]

onyx39 said:

That's pretty much correct. The sidewalks ARE too soft, there is far too much flex when cornering and changing lanes on motorways. Feel extremely unstable.
I am certain I bought the wrong ones, my point is, if I go to someone who sells tyres for a living, surely he should know what tyres need to go on what cars, and he gets it wrong, should be refunding me. Don't get me wrong, it's not a huge amount of money, it's the principle.
I put in my original post that I am changing them tomorrow, my question was, do I have grounds to ask the person who sold me (incorrect) tyres for a refund?

Dont drive on the pavement.

[Expatloon]

onyx39 said:

Clearly he does not know a lot about how fussy these cars are to tyres, and I now know a lot more than I did before I bought them.

That's probably the most sensible thing you've said.

Just because somebody fits tyres for a living doesn't mean he's necessarily intimate with every nuance of every car that comes in the door or what it's manufacturer recommends - or doesn't.

As the owner of the car that was information you should have acquainted yourself with before going shopping and it's the fact that you failed to do that which led you to buying unsuitable tyres.

[CYMR0]

If the tyres weren't fit for purpose, OP is definitely entitled to a refund.

However, I'm not convinced that these tyres weren't fit for purpose; they are the correct size, speed and weight rating, and allow the car to be driven on the road - perhaps not enthusiastically but if they meet all objectively measurable, legislative requirements, I can't for a second see that they wouldn't be fit for purpose.

Now if you could somehow show some non-conformity, I'd take a very different view.

[Mr2Mike]

onyx39 said:

lol... I would LOVE to have the chance to fit "cheap crap Toyo's" they are the recommended tyre, every Tf owner I know (and I knew a fair few) swears by the,.
Unfortunately, they are not making the TR-1 at the moment

The T1R has pretty soft sidewalls, that is one of the main complaints that people have of the T1R, especially on larger/heavier cars. The old T1S, which is favourably reviewed in the UlimateMG link posted above had ludicrously soft sidewalls.

I doubt the Dunlops are the primary cause of the problem, far more likely that some muppet has completely messed up the suspension geometry. Laser alignment systems are great, but still rely on the skill of the operators, who are very often rather unskilled.

Did you even check the tyre pressures?

Edited by Mr2Mike on Tuesday 27th January 13:46

[Bluebarge]

onyx39 said:

Tyres are Dunlop Maxxsports. 215 45 R 16's.

Mg recommend certain tyres, and this is not one of the recommended tyres. I am getting the correct ones fitted in the morning.

MGR only tested a very limited range of tyres when the original recommended tyre GSD2s became unavailable. They only tested around 8 commonly available tyres at the request of the MG Car Club. Some of those tyres have since gone out of production. Therefore, because it isn't on the list doesn't mean it is unsuitable. Anything with a stiff sidewall (which is most sporty low profile tyres and some MPV tyres) should be fine. If the handling feels that bad, it is far more likely to be the suspension, so get that checked first.

[Nigel_O]

To be fair the the OP, it can happen....

over a period of about eight years, I had around 20 - 25 pairs of Toyo T1-R on my Fiat Coupe - they were a great compromise between grip and cost (I accepted there were grippier tyres, but at much higher cost)

I was intrigued when the (then) new Toyo PX-4 came out - listed by Toyo as their "new UHP" tyre - I bought four, at the correct size, speed rating and load rating for the Coupe. They completely transformed the car. Previously, through a series of mods, I'd managed to get a neutral balance with decent turn-in (for a FWD car). However, with the PX-4, it felt like the car was always on the edge of a spin, with near-total loss of precision and the requirement to take two or three bites at turning in. I even found that I could make the car turn left under power, and right on the brakes

A complaint to Toyo resulted in some experimentation with pressures and I eventually learned a fair bit about block hysteresis. To Toyo's credit, they quickly de-listed the tyre as UHP and pushed it towards an upgrade tyre for lightweight hot-hatches - I was given a set of T1-R in exchange and I got my original handling balance back.

the above illustrates that the "wrong" tyre (even one of the correct size and ratings) can destroy a car's handling. However, I don't think the OP will have any recourse for a cash-in-hand deal on part-worns (incidentally, a quick search shows the tread depth on a new Dunlop Maxx Sport to be 8mm, so a part-worn with 6mm left is definitely NOT "nearly new" - its close to 1/3 worn)

[james12345]

Coming in a bit late to this one, but wanted to share my experience (or rather that of SWMBO!)

She used to have a 1996 MGF, which over a period of time she'd had the tyres replaced at Kwik Fit. She'd gone in and just asked for "two front tyres" or "two rear tyres" without specifying make, size or anything other than for her MGF.

A while later (several months after the second pair were done) she had a puncture and went back, albeit to a different branch. The manager at the "new" branch took one look, asked where she'd had them fitted previously, and told her that they were not a recommended tyre for the car, according to the manufacturer. He said the only knew this as his wife had one at the time.

Long story short, as all tyres had been supplied and fitted by Kwik Fit, he sourced four new tyres and had them all fitted FOC next day.